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Is that a cone??!

Hey!
I recently checked the label of a mousse that I use daily for over half a year. And it said it has
Hydroxyisohexyl 3-Cyclohexene Carboxaldehyde

That -xene thing is a cone, right? I feel pretty dumb that I haven't noticed it before...but if it IS a cone than that would be the reason why my hair always gets so build-uppy and I'm not very successful with cowashing...Wow, that would be really great.
So, can anyone help me out?
Thanks!
German Curlie :)
2c/3a/3b, fine-medium, high porosity

Still figuring out what my hair wants! :P
Loved yarn braids!!! :love7:

Mod-CG due to my fine hair and lots of time in a chlorinated pool.

No silicones!
Recently using:
Washing: Schauma Push-Up Volumen Shampoo, Hercut Shampoo for curls
Conditioning: Garnier Fructis Volume, Garnier Arganoil Conditioner
Styling: Loreal FX Gel, Nivea Flexible Curls Mousse




<3 Music <3

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  • crimsonshedemoncrimsonshedemon Posts: 2,098Registered Users
    Hydroxyisohexyl 3-Cyclohexene Carboxaldehyde

    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/curl-products/curlchemist-fragrance-additives
    Q: What is hydroxyisohexyl 3-cyclohexene carboxaldehyde?

    McKay: While this question came from the same community member, it was particularly relevant to this month’s column because this is also one of the many fragrance ingredients used in cosmetics and toiletries.

    Hydroxyisohexyl 3-cyclohexene carboxaldehyde is the INCI name (commercial name is Lyral), and it is known for its mild floral and slightly woody fragrance.
    ~~~~~~~~
    The products in your sig. Is that what you're using?
    If you can list their ingredients, I'm sure we can help.
  • SailaSaila Posts: 1,212Registered Users
    Cones are -zane not -zene. Hope that helps.
  • Kadi183Kadi183 Posts: 67Registered Users
    Yeah, it's in the Nivea flexible curls mousse (I don't know if that's available in the US).

    that's the whole ingredients list:

    Aqua,Parfum,Isobutane, VP/VA Copolymer, Propane, Polyquaternium-68, Polyquaternium-4, Aloe Barbadensis, Panthenol, Niaciamide, Cetrimonium Chloride, Hydroxyethyl, Cetyldimonium Phosphate, PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Butane, Citric Acid, Sodium Benzoate, Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Propylparaben, Hexyl Cinnamal, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Linalool, Citronellol, Geraniol, Hydroxysohexyl 3-Cyclohexene Carboxaldehyde, Alpha-Isomerhyl Ionone


    But if the -xene is not a cone, then I guess I'm at a loss again...
    German Curlie :)
    2c/3a/3b, fine-medium, high porosity

    Still figuring out what my hair wants! :P
    Loved yarn braids!!! :love7:

    Mod-CG due to my fine hair and lots of time in a chlorinated pool.

    No silicones!
    Recently using:
    Washing: Schauma Push-Up Volumen Shampoo, Hercut Shampoo for curls
    Conditioning: Garnier Fructis Volume, Garnier Arganoil Conditioner
    Styling: Loreal FX Gel, Nivea Flexible Curls Mousse




    <3 Music <3
  • justajesuschickjustajesuschick Posts: 1,657Registered Users
    Silicone ingredients end in -cone,-conol, or -xane.
    You are good.
    I'm 47. Straight hair until 6/2010. THANKS, thyroid!
    2b, medium-fine, normal-low porosity, medium density and elasticity
    CG since 7/1/2010

    Cleanse: Abba Color Protect
    Condition: DevaCurl OC
    LI: CJ-Deep Fix, Beauticurls LI
    Curl Enhancer: CHS Curl Keeper, KCCC
    Gel: Alba Strong Hold Gel, BRHG, Hugo Naturals Gel, SS FHG, CJPP
    Trying/Maybe: Ecostyler, CJRM
  • justajesuschickjustajesuschick Posts: 1,657Registered Users
    Oh, and the copolymer and/or the polyquats could be it. They bother some with build up.
    I'm 47. Straight hair until 6/2010. THANKS, thyroid!
    2b, medium-fine, normal-low porosity, medium density and elasticity
    CG since 7/1/2010

    Cleanse: Abba Color Protect
    Condition: DevaCurl OC
    LI: CJ-Deep Fix, Beauticurls LI
    Curl Enhancer: CHS Curl Keeper, KCCC
    Gel: Alba Strong Hold Gel, BRHG, Hugo Naturals Gel, SS FHG, CJPP
    Trying/Maybe: Ecostyler, CJRM
  • Kadi183Kadi183 Posts: 67Registered Users
    Thanks!
    I will check my products for the copolymer and the polyquats and leave them out and see what happens ;)
    German Curlie :)
    2c/3a/3b, fine-medium, high porosity

    Still figuring out what my hair wants! :P
    Loved yarn braids!!! :love7:

    Mod-CG due to my fine hair and lots of time in a chlorinated pool.

    No silicones!
    Recently using:
    Washing: Schauma Push-Up Volumen Shampoo, Hercut Shampoo for curls
    Conditioning: Garnier Fructis Volume, Garnier Arganoil Conditioner
    Styling: Loreal FX Gel, Nivea Flexible Curls Mousse




    <3 Music <3
  • SegBSegB Posts: 692Registered Users
    What are the ingredients for the Garnier Fructis Oil Repair? That could be causing some buildup depending what is in it and/or could be too heavy for your hair...
    2b/3a, normal/high porosity, fine/medium texture, medium density, low elasticity

    Low Poo- Tigi Colour Goddess, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT (clarify 1X/week)
    Condish- CJ Curl Rehab, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT
    Leave In- Slip Detangler, KCKT, Redken Curl Refiner
    Style- KCCC, SS CEJ, SS FHG
    Treatment- CJ Repair Me! and CJ CR

    Dislikes: Too much protein, high glycerin content, and heavy oils
  • Kadi183Kadi183 Posts: 67Registered Users
    Aqua/Water, Cetearyl Alcohol, Elaeis Guineesis Oil, Palm Oil, Behentrimonium Chloride, CI 19140, Yellow 5, CI 15985, Yellow 6, Niacinamide, Ribes Nigrum Oil, Black Currant Seed Oil, Saccharum Officinarum Extract, Sugar Cane Extract, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Olea Europaea Oil, Olive Fruit Oil, Chlorhexidine Dihydrochloride, Camellia Sinensis Extract, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Benzylalcohol, Linalool, Pyrus Malus Extract, Apple fruit Extract, Pyridoxine HCI, Persea Gratissima, Avocado Oil, Butyrospermum Parkii Butter, Shea Butter, Citric Acid, Citrus Medica Limonum Peel Extract, Lemon Peel Extract, Glycerin, Parfum, Fragrance FIL C35637/1

    That's in the Garnier conditioner...
    It actually might be that all the oils are too heavy for my hair, and also it has alcohol in it. I also know my hair doesn't do so well with Glycerin sometimes, but I suppose it's not the cause for the build-up...?
    German Curlie :)
    2c/3a/3b, fine-medium, high porosity

    Still figuring out what my hair wants! :P
    Loved yarn braids!!! :love7:

    Mod-CG due to my fine hair and lots of time in a chlorinated pool.

    No silicones!
    Recently using:
    Washing: Schauma Push-Up Volumen Shampoo, Hercut Shampoo for curls
    Conditioning: Garnier Fructis Volume, Garnier Arganoil Conditioner
    Styling: Loreal FX Gel, Nivea Flexible Curls Mousse




    <3 Music <3
  • SailaSaila Posts: 1,212Registered Users
    Most people need to clarify occasionally, even if they are not using any problematic ingredients. It's just part of the cycle.
  • SegBSegB Posts: 692Registered Users
    Kadi183 wrote: »
    Aqua/Water, Cetearyl Alcohol, Elaeis Guineesis Oil, Palm Oil, Behentrimonium Chloride, CI 19140, Yellow 5, CI 15985, Yellow 6, Niacinamide, Ribes Nigrum Oil, Black Currant Seed Oil, Saccharum Officinarum Extract, Sugar Cane Extract, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Olea Europaea Oil, Olive Fruit Oil, Chlorhexidine Dihydrochloride, Camellia Sinensis Extract, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Benzylalcohol, Linalool, Pyrus Malus Extract, Apple fruit Extract, Pyridoxine HCI, Persea Gratissima, Avocado Oil, Butyrospermum Parkii Butter, Shea Butter, Citric Acid, Citrus Medica Limonum Peel Extract, Lemon Peel Extract, Glycerin, Parfum, Fragrance FIL C35637/1

    That's in the Garnier conditioner...
    It actually might be that all the oils are too heavy for my hair, and also it has alcohol in it. I also know my hair doesn't do so well with Glycerin sometimes, but I suppose it's not the cause for the build-up...?

    It looks like the alcohol is one of the good ones, and that the glycerin is pretty far down on the list...I would go with buildup from the oils...If this were me, I would clarify with a sulfate shampoo and then deep condition...But there are other ways to clarify as well if you don't want to use a sulfate shampoo. I find that since my hair is much healthier than it was, it can handle 1 sulfate poo a week...
    2b/3a, normal/high porosity, fine/medium texture, medium density, low elasticity

    Low Poo- Tigi Colour Goddess, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT (clarify 1X/week)
    Condish- CJ Curl Rehab, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT
    Leave In- Slip Detangler, KCKT, Redken Curl Refiner
    Style- KCCC, SS CEJ, SS FHG
    Treatment- CJ Repair Me! and CJ CR

    Dislikes: Too much protein, high glycerin content, and heavy oils
  • Kadi183Kadi183 Posts: 67Registered Users
    Saila wrote: »
    Most people need to clarify occasionally, even if they are not using any problematic ingredients. It's just part of the cycle.


    That's what I thought too in the beginning, but my hair starts feeling yucky and smelly after 3-5 days already so that I would still need to use a sulfate shampoo twice a week, which was pretty much how much I used it before I started embracing my curls :/

    And, unfortunetely, a sulfate shampoo seems to be the only thing that really gets my scalp clean, I tried sugar scrubs and a sulfate free poo and both just worked for a couple of washes...I kind of really want to get rid of the sulfates since they don't make my hair look/feel too great, but at least make my scalp clean so I'm torn in between.
    I might just start new, using a lighter conditioner and just my gel that actually says "no residue" on it, and see what will happen...
    German Curlie :)
    2c/3a/3b, fine-medium, high porosity

    Still figuring out what my hair wants! :P
    Loved yarn braids!!! :love7:

    Mod-CG due to my fine hair and lots of time in a chlorinated pool.

    No silicones!
    Recently using:
    Washing: Schauma Push-Up Volumen Shampoo, Hercut Shampoo for curls
    Conditioning: Garnier Fructis Volume, Garnier Arganoil Conditioner
    Styling: Loreal FX Gel, Nivea Flexible Curls Mousse




    <3 Music <3
  • SailaSaila Posts: 1,212Registered Users
    Kadi183 wrote: »
    Saila wrote: »
    Most people need to clarify occasionally, even if they are not using any problematic ingredients. It's just part of the cycle.


    That's what I thought too in the beginning, but my hair starts feeling yucky and smelly after 3-5 days already so that I would still need to use a sulfate shampoo twice a week, which was pretty much how much I used it before I started embracing my curls :/

    And, unfortunetely, a sulfate shampoo seems to be the only thing that really gets my scalp clean, I tried sugar scrubs and a sulfate free poo and both just worked for a couple of washes...I kind of really want to get rid of the sulfates since they don't make my hair look/feel too great, but at least make my scalp clean so I'm torn in between.
    I might just start new, using a lighter conditioner and just my gel that actually says "no residue" on it, and see what will happen...

    You might want to try diluting your sulfate poo with water. Does your low poo have cocobetiane in it?
  • Kadi183Kadi183 Posts: 67Registered Users
    The ones that I were using did, but these were also the sulfate shampoos. Now I'm using Dr. Bronners soap which doesn't have it in it.
    Would that cocobetiane build up too?
    German Curlie :)
    2c/3a/3b, fine-medium, high porosity

    Still figuring out what my hair wants! :P
    Loved yarn braids!!! :love7:

    Mod-CG due to my fine hair and lots of time in a chlorinated pool.

    No silicones!
    Recently using:
    Washing: Schauma Push-Up Volumen Shampoo, Hercut Shampoo for curls
    Conditioning: Garnier Fructis Volume, Garnier Arganoil Conditioner
    Styling: Loreal FX Gel, Nivea Flexible Curls Mousse




    <3 Music <3
  • SailaSaila Posts: 1,212Registered Users
    Kadi183 wrote: »
    The ones that I were using did, but these were also the sulfate shampoos. Now I'm using Dr. Bronners soap which doesn't have it in it.
    Would that cocobetiane build up too?

    No, that's a cleanser that removes a lot of silicones.
  • asianrunnerasianrunner Posts: 2,251Registered Users
    I saw there was castor oil in the mousse which also causes build up problems for some people. I remember kathymack has said she used a product with that in it and said it took awhile for her her to return to normal.
    Coarse texture, normal-high porosity, normal elasticity (Komaza Care), very weak waves
    cleanser: Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix

    rinse out: GVP Conditioning Balm, CJ Beauticurls, CJ Smoothing

    jellies/creams: CR Curl Maker, KCCC
    gels: CJ CQ, CJ Pattern Pusha, BRHG

  • crimsonshedemoncrimsonshedemon Posts: 2,098Registered Users
    Be sure when you wash that you really scrub your scalp with your finger tips. Rub until your arms want to rub off. Movement and agitation cleanse your scalp.

    Build up- polyquats can build up. Oils can be too heavy for some hair. The alcohol is a moisturizing one so that isn't the problem.

    I really recommend buying the ebook from Live Curly Live Free. It lists ingredients, tips and much more.

    Be sure to keep a journal so you know what works and what doesn't.