HELP! 2b/c out of control!

ailin85ailin85 Posts: 137Registered Users Curl Neophyte
I'm about to give up! Who knew this CG was going to be so hard and so expensive!

I've been blow-dryer free for the past 2 months and I can tell you what an experience! I feel great I'm doing this for my hair's sake (I am a naturally dark blonde with blonde highlights) but at the same token boy did people have to endure a couple of weeks and see my frizz/poof ball, still trying products but it's getting so hard for me to know what's actually working.

I'm going nuts: "to cowash or not to cowash", lo poo or no poo....anyway, just yesterday hit CVS and saw Frizz-Ease Dream Curls Spray I can tell you it worked (for the day) but now I'm not so sure, I used it as the second day and by now even though my waves have turned into w/urls it is a frizz-ball even after me applying spray, diffused and then I applied Garnier Frizz Serum (forgot complete name)....

Anyway, I've tried so many different things from curl cremes to wave enhancing sprays and I just look undefiend and miss my blow dryer :cwm10: which made me feel groomed!

This is what I have and do based on everything I've read before starting CG:

I use the mic.towel, I have DevaCurl lo poo + Conditioner, I even bought V05 Conditioners to start cowashing (did not work hair way too weighed down!!)

I just want: natural waves, definition and SOFTNESS, can't stand that crunchiness, does NOT make me feel natural whatsoever!

PLEASE HELP!! I need suggestions from other wavies and even though I know no hair is the same, I need to know what I can do and start trying ...

My hair is a 2b/c (sometimes) fine/wavy and could get nice curls depending on the products and how I style it (plunking, or putting it up on a bun), my hair can do whatever you want it to do....!
A|G
"iron clothes not hair"
2b (blonde highlights)

Products
:
Trying them all! So far, not settling down... FL is a challenge!

*Modified CG since Feb'2011

Comments

  • SegBSegB Posts: 692Registered Users
    Do those products have silicones in them? If you are co-washing, the silicones will not be removed, and cause buildup, weighing your hair down and making it feel...gross...I would recommend checking the labels :-)
    2b/3a, normal/high porosity, fine/medium texture, medium density, low elasticity

    Low Poo- Tigi Colour Goddess, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT (clarify 1X/week)
    Condish- CJ Curl Rehab, Giovanni 50:50, Giovanni TTT
    Leave In- Slip Detangler, KCKT, Redken Curl Refiner
    Style- KCCC, SS CEJ, SS FHG
    Treatment- CJ Repair Me! and CJ CR

    Dislikes: Too much protein, high glycerin content, and heavy oils
  • IAgirlIAgirl Posts: 2,540Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Whew, I hear you about not wanting crunchiness. I'm not a fan either. I strongly suggest you post some of your specific concerns on the 2s board (wavies) because they're a super-helpful and active bunch.
    I'm not a crunch fan either. Fine blonde hair and crunch don't always please the eyes.
    I can just use a tiny bit of conditioner mixed with a blob of gel for soft waves. Many people are going for a lot of hold, hence the crunch.
    You might prefer products with less hold and crunch like Kiss my Face Upper Management (curl enhancer, light hold), Aubrey Organics Mandarin Magic, Aloe Vera Gel. None of these are expensive. Homemade FSG has a little crunch (which you can remove by rubbing conditioner between your hands and SOTC-ing. You might just try using a little conditioner as a leave-in and do your styling with only that.
    I am often inclined to comb my styled hair with a wide-toothed comb because I prefer that look to thin clumps.

    Have you tried the Pixiecurl method of diffusing? Many wavies like that because the weight of the water pulls our waves straighter, this method enhances waves and curls.

    Swing on over to the wavy board when you have time and we'll help you work things out.
  • curlypearlcurlypearl Posts: 12,181Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I second the idea of posting on the 2 board. Good luck - I know the journey to finding what works for you is often very difficult.
    2/c Coarse hair med. density.
    Highly porous. Color over grey.
    I love all the Curl Junkie products. Still experimenting with gels and curl creams. Still hoping for 2nd day hair....
    Every day is a gift :flower:
  • CurlyHairedFarmerCurlyHairedFarmer Posts: 3,079Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Frizz Ease products are loaded with silicones, so if you are not shampooing then you aren't removing them. This will cause buildup making hair unmanageable.
    Currently Loving:
    Shampoo: Giovanni 50:50

    Conditioners - CJ Strengthening, CJ Beauticurls Argan and Olive Oil, CJ Rehab, CJ Curl Fix

    Leave-in: CJ Smoothing

    Deep Conditioner: CJ Hibiscus and Banana Deep Fix

    Stylers - Tigi Curls Rock Amplifier, AG:Recoil, KCCC, Mop-C Curling Cream, Paul Mitchell Sculpting foam
  • ailin85ailin85 Posts: 137Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    still trying to learn how to use the site it's a bit confusing...where is the 2 wavy's board? sorry for the dumb question... :sad7:

    Thanks all for your help...still learning about the ingredients and it is a bit confusing...

    Good point! I think I'm causing major buildup...
    A|G
    "iron clothes not hair"
    2b (blonde highlights)

    Products
    :
    Trying them all! So far, not settling down... FL is a challenge!

    *Modified CG since Feb'2011
  • Lucky CharmLucky Charm Posts: 1,250Registered Users
    CurlTalk - Powered by vBulletin
    this is a link to the Hair boards. Scroll down a bit and youll see the 2 forum.

    The College Curly: Laura Lee's All In One Guide to Going CG: Now Revised and Updated!
    This is a fantastic and simple guide to going CG, worth the read!
    - 2C - Coarse Canopy & med/fine underlayers
    - MOP C Hydrating 'poo
    - LOreal Natures Therapy Moisturizing condish, ION Effective Care, Garnier S&S (old formula)
    - treatments: CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Repair Me!
    - plopping, diffusing, and clipping the roots
  • wavynwild16wavynwild16 Posts: 2,121Registered Users
    ailin85 wrote: »
    I'm about to give up! Who knew this CG was going to be so hard and so expensive!

    I've been blow-dryer free for the past 2 months and I can tell you what an experience! I feel great I'm doing this for my hair's sake (I am a naturally dark blonde with blonde highlights) but at the same token boy did people have to endure a couple of weeks and see my frizz/poof ball, still trying products but it's getting so hard for me to know what's actually working.

    I'm going nuts: "to cowash or not to cowash", lo poo or no poo....anyway, just yesterday hit CVS and saw Frizz-Ease Dream Curls Spray I can tell you it worked (for the day) but now I'm not so sure, I used it as the second day and by now even though my waves have turned into w/urls it is a frizz-ball even after me applying spray, diffused and then I applied Garnier Frizz Serum (forgot complete name)....

    Anyway, I've tried so many different things from curl cremes to wave enhancing sprays and I just look undefiend and miss my blow dryer :cwm10: which made me feel groomed!

    This is what I have and do based on everything I've read before starting CG:

    I use the mic.towel, I have DevaCurl lo poo + Conditioner, I even bought V05 Conditioners to start cowashing (did not work hair way too weighed down!!)

    I just want: natural waves, definition and SOFTNESS, can't stand that crunchiness, does NOT make me feel natural whatsoever!

    PLEASE HELP!! I need suggestions from other wavies and even though I know no hair is the same, I need to know what I can do and start trying ...

    My hair is a 2b/c (sometimes) fine/wavy and could get nice curls depending on the products and how I style it (plunking, or putting it up on a bun), my hair can do whatever you want it to do....!

    Are you going without your blowdryer for a reason? Is the extra heat making your hair frizzy? It's totally fine if you still blow dry your hair and are CG. It's not against the rules or something. YOU make the rules for your hair! Do what suits you and your hair best. ;)

    I'm basically just highlighting other people's suggestions here, but:

    Your products are probably loaded with silicones. You should re-read all your labels and make sure there are no ingredients that end in -cone, -conol, or -xane. They will most likely build up on your hair with just CO-washing and will cause your hair to lose definition and become stringy and frizzy and greasy. Just a little tip: most of the time, you want to avoid things that say "serum." These are usually bursting with silicones. I would recommend doing a sulfate wash (make sure there's no cones in the shampoo, too -- they hide them in there, also! ;)) and starting over. That way, you're on a nice clean slate and can start fresh -- with the right products and techniques!

    If you are after a soft look, you don't necessarily have to skimp on products, which is the most apparent way to avoid all that crunch. When your hair is *completely* dry, you can flip your head forward and gently scrunch out the crunch. It will leave you with soft curls that still have nice definition. Be careful not to do it too soon, though, or you will interrupt the drying process and end up with tons of frizz and looser curls.

    You might want to also give all the different techniques here a go! It sounds like your hair would benefit from the use of all the different methods we have here. I second the pixie curl diffusing, like IAgirl said! I love that technique -- it's been a life saver...not to mention a frizz saver! Also, the Icequeen is another great one, and so is plopping, the one you already mentioned.

    HTH! Good luck.
    Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

    Favorite...
    Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
    RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
    Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
    Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
    Mod-CG since 12/1/10! :happy7:

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