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Wow. 5 months CG... what a difference!

RacerWife7RacerWife7 Posts: 895Registered Users Curl Novice
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The first picture is almost exactly 5 months ago. And the second one is from today. While my hair wasn't horrible back in October, it definitely wasn't as curly as it is now. I've always had relatively healthy hair - even though I was cleansing w/sulfates, etc.. I was, basically, deep conditioning every day after stripping w/sulfates (which, in hindsight, seems kind of odd :lol: ). But, I think that's what saved my hair from being dry and split. Back then, if I pulled a strand of hair out and slid it through my fingers, I could feel tiny "burrs" on it as I slid my fingers down it. But, now, that feeling is gone.

My hair LOOKS shorter in today's picture. But, in reality, it's longer. It just curls much better, and because of that, it looks shorter. Wow. ...I'm amazed at how persistence, time, care, and better products have enhanced the curls I already had. I didn't know how good they could look! It does look a bit messier, style-wise today. But, the curl is so much better, I don't even care. I'm not messing with it. LOL!

BTW - that October pic was my first attempt at a super-soak. Worked pretty well for the first time. :)

So, for those of you who are struggling in the first months of trying this, hang in there. It gets better if you stick with it. I have to say (again), probably the best move I made was having Live Curly Live Free analyze my hair and do their Curl Wizard thing. WELL worth the minor cost. :)
Janet ~ Northern NJ
Properties: Dense, Fine, Low Porosity, Low Elasticity
My Picasa Album
What I used in this photo:
Cleansing: Suave Tropical Coconut Condish
Conditioner: CJ Smoothing Condish
Styling: CJCQ
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Comments

  • rj16rj16 Posts: 186Registered Users
    I can't get over how healthy your hair was to start off with and you still had amazing results! You have stunning curls!! I also want to tell you that I love reading your day-to-day product usage and pics... :)

    Do you still use the SSM? I can't remember from your sig.. Do you get similar results now?

    Thanks for the inspiration! I just had my one month anniversary... Good days and bad days!

    RJ
  • CurlyLinZeeCurlyLinZee Posts: 462Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    RW7:
    I never realized you were relatively new to CG. Holy cow! You've got some beautiful hair. I thought you'd been CG'ing for years. Your hair is gorgeous.

    Go, RW7, go! :headbang:
    Hair type: 2c/3a ii, medium/coarse, desert hair
    Cleansers: CJ Daily Fix
    Conditioners: CJ Beauticurls Argan Oil, Tresemme
    Leave-In Conditioners: CJ BCLI
    Deep Conditioners: CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Deep Fix, SS DDMT
    Stylers:
    KCCC
    Holding Gels: CJ Curl Queen
    Pomade: Jane Carter N&S
    Hair Likes: agave nectar, oils of any kind


  • wavynwild16wavynwild16 Posts: 2,121Registered Users
    OMGosh, RacerWife, I've never seen before pics of your hair. It's absolutely gorgeous then, too! It doesn't look dry or frizzy at all! You are one lucky curly. But, I absolutely love the after picture! Your curls are so defined! And, I am right there with rj16 about liking your day-to-day product usage in your siggi. If only I could get first day hair that's half as nice as your first pic, I'd be happy. ;) Do you apply your products any special way? Any techniques you like?
    Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

    Favorite...
    Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
    RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
    Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
    Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
    Mod-CG since 12/1/10! :happy7:
  • RacerWife7RacerWife7 Posts: 895Registered Users Curl Novice
    Thanks, everyone! I have always been pretty fanatical about my hair - even when I was (unknowingly) harming it with sulfates. So, going CG was just a change of ingredients for me. I already spent tons of time on it. When that older photo was taken, I had been CG for about 2 weeks. And that was probably my best curl day. I struggled like everyone else in the beginning. And I continued to struggle until I knew my hair properties and followed the Curl Wizard suggestions. I can't say ALL my days were bad hair days back then. But, most of them were. I was just as frustrated as some of the super-newbies I've seen here lately. I think that was the reason I felt compelled to make this post. I know what it's like to struggle with products and methods, too. But, I don't mind trying things and re-trying them to see if they work out using a different method or with different product combos.

    WnW - I don't really have any, specific, techniques or methods that I use. I don't plop or do the supersoaker method (although I did use it in that before pic). And I don't do dry it halfway and then add KCCC (can't remember the name of that method). Smasters? Is that the one? Or is Smasters method another thing? See... I don't even remember the names because none of those really worked for me.

    One thing that made a difference was backing off on using so many products. In the beginning, I was using everything - leave-in conditioner, curl creme, curl enhancer, and gel. That's MUCH too much for my fine hair. Between the fact that it weighs it down and the fact that my work environment adds dirt, I have to use less product than many girls here use or my hair feels gross by midday.

    Because of the crud in the air where I work, I really have to cleanse more often than some people do. I use either CJDF or GTTTT 2 or 3 days a week. I figure, at least they're CG. And I do a PT once every 2 weeks or so. I did one yesterday - and that's part of the reason my hair came out so nice today. :) I always get good results the day after a PT.

    But, again - the best thing I've done was have the analysis done (Curl Wizard Premium). That's what helped point me in the right direction with products. It's how I found out that my hair loves protein-packed products. And now I'm not afraid to use them. LOL! I actually was in the beginning. No more. CJBSC has to be my absolute favorite conditioner because it's light enough to not weigh down my fine curls, but packed with enough of the protein that my hair loves. So, I get great results with it. Too many products are a no-no. And Deva products are junk (for me). I keep thinking one of them will work for me. Nope. Not one. And, generally speaking, I DON'T co-wash. It does NOTHING for me. The only time I use a conditioner to wash with is when I do a PT. I only use it so I have a vehicle for my baking soda. ;) Other than that, I don't co-wash. There's no point. It just adds weight. I don't need it. Lots of times I just use CJBSC and my styling product(s) or AOHR and my styling product(s). That's IT. Less is more. ;) HTH!
    Janet ~ Northern NJ
    Properties: Dense, Fine, Low Porosity, Low Elasticity
    My Picasa Album
    What I used in this photo:
    Cleansing: Suave Tropical Coconut Condish
    Conditioner: CJ Smoothing Condish
    Styling: CJCQ
    th_d963586e.jpg
  • RacerWife7RacerWife7 Posts: 895Registered Users Curl Novice
    Oh - and one other thing I learned... don't skimp on the products because they cost more. You need what you need. I make sure I get every strand, root to tip, or I get frizz or limp curls. I happen to have a lot of hair. A lot of hair = a lot of product. That's just the way it is. A person with less hair can use less product. I can't.

    I apply products upside down when my hair is still dripping wet (I'm still standing in the shower at this point). I don't plop because it does nothing for my curl - at all. The only thing I do is (1) make sure the hair is slathered with product and (2) scrunch it out with my curls like us cloth, and (3) diffuse it on low. I DON'T scrunch it while I'm diffusing - I leave the curls alone until it's 100% dry and then I SOTC if there is any. I didn't get any crunch today with CCCC & CIAB. But, when I use KCCC, I definitely get crunch. I just make sure not to mess with the curls until they're completely dry or it can really mess them up for the rest of the day (BOO! :( ) ...Learned that one the hard way. LOL!
    Janet ~ Northern NJ
    Properties: Dense, Fine, Low Porosity, Low Elasticity
    My Picasa Album
    What I used in this photo:
    Cleansing: Suave Tropical Coconut Condish
    Conditioner: CJ Smoothing Condish
    Styling: CJCQ
    th_d963586e.jpg
  • redwavesredwaves Posts: 27Registered Users
    Beautitful! I love your curls!!
    2c
    Course texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity

    Currently experimenting with Curl Junkie products.
    My hair loves FSG.:)
  • kat180kat180 Posts: 6,280Registered Users Curl Novice
    Sigh. Your hair makes me happy.

    Can't believe you've only been CG 5 months! I thought you were here much longer than that....

    It looks stunning today :) Really lovely :)
  • pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I'd be very happy with your before hair. So pretty. Oh well, at least I don't have to have my before hair anymore.:happy8:
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpedaheh.blogspot.com%2F" class="Popup (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
    2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
    Cowash: Tresemme naturals
    Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
    Curl enhancer: FSG
    Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
    PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
    Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
  • wavynwild16wavynwild16 Posts: 2,121Registered Users
    Wow, I can't believe you don't use any special techniques! You must have superwoman hair. :) My hair absolutely loves plopping. I can't have a good curly hair day without it! That, the icequeen method, and pixie diffusing have been pretty good together. But, my hair's freaking out on me lately. :( Nothing's working like it was -- not even my beloved 2nd day hair!
    Oh, and yeah, the thing you were describing is the Smasters method! ;)

    And you are so right about the lots of hair needs lots of product thing...I learned THAT the hard way! My hair needs to be COATED in product, or else it just looks and feels like there is nothing in it.
    Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

    Favorite...
    Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
    RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
    Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
    Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
    Mod-CG since 12/1/10! :happy7:
  • CurlyCaliGirlCurlyCaliGirl Posts: 40Registered Users
    Greap pics! Thanks for sharing. I was wondering, if you don't co-wash then what do you wash your hair with, if anything? You might have explained it in your posts but I'm new and don't know what a bunch of the abreviations mean. lol

    Thanks for sharing!
  • jenimkatjenimkat Posts: 92Registered Users
    i second everyone else...your hair is lovely before and after-but wow, your curls really did tighten up! and you have so much shine too. i don't think i realized you didn't co-wash. makes me feel better! i keep trying to but you are right, it adds weight, and my curls can't take it. I have done better skipping wash days or water washing or low-pooing. the same with leave-ins.

    you make me want to try curl wizard...but i'm afraid they will tell me i have all the wrong stuff...
    Hair type: 3a, fine, porous (too much hair dye on lengths), hennaed
    Products i love so far: devacare low-poo, gftn, yes to tomatoes, yes to carrots, burt's bees shea and grapefruit DT, oc, millcreek botanicals biotin conditioner aveda be curly style prep and curl enhancer, cjdf, ciab, bb fsg, bb styling mud, angel, cccclite
  • RacerWife7RacerWife7 Posts: 895Registered Users Curl Novice
    LOL @ WnW saying I have superwoman hair. :lol: I don't think so. But, I have worked hard to get it and keep it healthy. ...And yay! I had Smasters' method correct! ;) I thought that was it. I tried that - didn't work well for me. I got hard, unruly hair from that. I prefer my KCCC be used alone on dripping wet hair. It just works better for me. :)

    My membership date is deceiving - maybe most of you probably thought I had been CG longer because I signed up on this board back in '04. But, I think I did that because of a Deva thing that was going on where you had to post your story here when you were done. It was the first time I tried being CG. And I HATED it. My hair was HORRIBLE using all the Deva products. So, it was a long time before I came back and decided to investigate further.

    As for what I wash with - Giovanni Tea Tree Triple Treat Invigorating Shampoo (which I buy at my local supermarket) or Curl Junkie Daily Fix. Those are my 2 cleansers. I don't have a clue whether you'd call them no-poos or low-poos or whatever. But, they work nicely and they're CG - and that's all that matters to me. GTTTT was recommended to me by the Curl Wizard analysis because of my hair's protein needs. And it was right on the money. It "feels" to me like I'm washing my hair. But, there's no sulfates in it or excess emollients in it to weigh my hair down or over-moisturize it - it almost feels clarifying to me, minus the harsh sulfates. The Curl Junkie cleanser works great for me in between when I don't feel the need for a more clarifying cleanse. And I trust CJ products 100% - Marsha recommended this cleanser to me, personally, after talking with me a bit about my hair and my needs and wishes. And, as usual, she was correct.
    Janet ~ Northern NJ
    Properties: Dense, Fine, Low Porosity, Low Elasticity
    My Picasa Album
    What I used in this photo:
    Cleansing: Suave Tropical Coconut Condish
    Conditioner: CJ Smoothing Condish
    Styling: CJCQ
    th_d963586e.jpg
  • RacerWife7RacerWife7 Posts: 895Registered Users Curl Novice
    jenimkat wrote: »
    i second everyone else...your hair is lovely before and after-but wow, your curls really did tighten up! and you have so much shine too. i don't think i realized you didn't co-wash. makes me feel better! i keep trying to but you are right, it adds weight, and my curls can't take it. I have done better skipping wash days or water washing or low-pooing. the same with leave-ins.

    you make me want to try curl wizard...but i'm afraid they will tell me i have all the wrong stuff...

    Ohhh! Don't be afraid! Be happy that you'll find what really works for you! I found that I had a mixture of products - some good; some bad. I just added one at a time until I was comfortable with the ones I had. BEST thing I did along the CG route.

    And leave-ins haven't worked well for me almost all winter, aside from a day or two here or there. So, I skip the leave-in almost all the time. The only thing I have in my hair on any normal day is one or maybe two styling products (either a gel or a curl enhancer and a gel - or like today, a curl creme and a gel).
    Janet ~ Northern NJ
    Properties: Dense, Fine, Low Porosity, Low Elasticity
    My Picasa Album
    What I used in this photo:
    Cleansing: Suave Tropical Coconut Condish
    Conditioner: CJ Smoothing Condish
    Styling: CJCQ
    th_d963586e.jpg
  • BenniBenni Posts: 8Registered Users
    :cheers::cheers:
  • CurlyCaliGirlCurlyCaliGirl Posts: 40Registered Users
    Thank you for taking the time to explain! I've sent off for my curl analysis and can't wait to get the results because although I am finding that the stuff I have read to do doesn't really work well for me, such as LI conditioner. Makes my hair stringy limp and frizzy all at once.
  • RustinaRustina Posts: 894Registered Users
    Your hair is amazing, Janet, and if I didn't like you so much, I'd have to hate you for walking around with those gorgeous spirals!!! You are a walking billboard for nc.com and the CG method in general. Congratulations on that fabulous hair!!
    Sulfate/non-water-soluble silicone free since 8/16/10
    Northern VA
    Med-coarse, normal porosity, low elasticity
    Dye-free since 11/2010

  • msgibletmsgiblet Posts: 5,825Registered Users
    Your hair looks great in the first pic but the curls have definitely gotten stronger after 5 months - lovely!
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fmsgiblet%2F" class="Popup - pw: gibber -- Pics Added 7/10/11
    Fine, Thick, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity

    Countess Balashi of Divi Beach in the Order of the Curly Crusaders :occasion5:

    If I'm Going To Have A Bad Hair Day, It Might As Well Be In Aruba!

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • justajesuschickjustajesuschick Posts: 1,657Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    pedaheh wrote: »
    I'd be very happy with your before hair. So pretty. Oh well, at least I don't have to have my before hair anymore.:happy8:

    Once again-I'm with ped!! Looks fabulous!!
    I'm 47. Straight hair until 6/2010. THANKS, thyroid!
    2b, medium-fine, normal-low porosity, medium density and elasticity
    CG since 7/1/2010

    Cleanse: Abba Color Protect
    Condition: DevaCurl OC
    LI: CJ-Deep Fix, Beauticurls LI
    Curl Enhancer: CHS Curl Keeper, KCCC
    Gel: Alba Strong Hold Gel, BRHG, Hugo Naturals Gel, SS FHG, CJPP
    Trying/Maybe: Ecostyler, CJRM
  • justajesuschickjustajesuschick Posts: 1,657Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Rustina wrote: »
    Your hair is amazing, Janet, and if I didn't like you so much, I'd have to hate you for walking around with those gorgeous spirals!!!

    ...and I also have to agree with Rusti!!!
    I'm 47. Straight hair until 6/2010. THANKS, thyroid!
    2b, medium-fine, normal-low porosity, medium density and elasticity
    CG since 7/1/2010

    Cleanse: Abba Color Protect
    Condition: DevaCurl OC
    LI: CJ-Deep Fix, Beauticurls LI
    Curl Enhancer: CHS Curl Keeper, KCCC
    Gel: Alba Strong Hold Gel, BRHG, Hugo Naturals Gel, SS FHG, CJPP
    Trying/Maybe: Ecostyler, CJRM
  • RacerWife7RacerWife7 Posts: 895Registered Users Curl Novice
    Rustina wrote: »
    Your hair is amazing, Janet, and if I didn't like you so much, I'd have to hate you for walking around with those gorgeous spirals!!!

    ...and I also have to agree with Rusti!!!
    :laughing5:
    Janet ~ Northern NJ
    Properties: Dense, Fine, Low Porosity, Low Elasticity
    My Picasa Album
    What I used in this photo:
    Cleansing: Suave Tropical Coconut Condish
    Conditioner: CJ Smoothing Condish
    Styling: CJCQ
    th_d963586e.jpg
  • RacerWife7RacerWife7 Posts: 895Registered Users Curl Novice
    Thanks everyone - you're all so generous with compliments! To be honest, I never thought my hair was anything exceptional. Yeah, I can make it look nice, I suppose. But, I think everyone has that ability in their own way - it just takes a while to find it. ;)
    Janet ~ Northern NJ
    Properties: Dense, Fine, Low Porosity, Low Elasticity
    My Picasa Album
    What I used in this photo:
    Cleansing: Suave Tropical Coconut Condish
    Conditioner: CJ Smoothing Condish
    Styling: CJCQ
    th_d963586e.jpg
  • LeanneMLeanneM Posts: 211Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Wow! I just had to join in to say your hair is just gorgeous! Like the others, I had thought that you had been CG for awhile because of your join date. It's so inspiring to see what a difference five months can make!

    I'm just starting my third month of going CG, and it feels like every day is still a struggle in terms of figuring out what works for my hair! Getting the Curl Wizard analysis done really did help!
    Mod-CG since December 2010.
    Hair type: NC: 2A; FIA: 2cFii; Fine, normal porosity, normal elasticity
    Cleansing: CJ Cleansing Conditioner, Trader Joe's Tea Tree, or Deva No Poo
    Daily conditioner: Deva One C or CJ Beauticurls Strengthening Hair Cond or GPB
    Styling products: Deva B'Leave In + Deva Curl Cream + AnGel; or
    SS CEJ + BRHG; or AG: Recoil + BRHG; or KCKT + KCCC + BRHG
    Treatments: SS protein treatment or CJ Curl Fix or Nexxus Emergencee + CJ Curl Rehab

  • NancyV908NancyV908 Posts: 108Registered Users
    Wow, I thought you'd been at it longer too, based on all the good advice you dole out! It's been so helpful to me as I've tried to figure all this out.

    But I have to agree with everyone else--your before pic is great! For most of us, that would be the "after"!

    Thanks for the encouragement--it's so helpful to me, as I am one of those frustrated people you refer to.
    My properties
    Fine, normal porosity, normal elasticity

    Leave-in Suave Naturals Tropical Coconut; looking for a replacement for the no-longer-CG Garnier Fructis Triple Nutrition
    Gel Looking for a replacement for the discontinued LAL blue gel. Also thinking I need a low- or no-humectant gel for high-dew days, but haven't figured that one out.

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