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Frizzy ends after flat ironing?

bklyn_bellebklyn_belle Posts: 423Registered Users
Hey all, so I flat ironed my hair this weekend and it came out beautiful EXCEPT dry frizzy ends. I run my hands through it until wham....dry natty ends. Is it that I need a trim or I am simply not going over the bottom with the ends enough?
Texture: proud 4a (3c at the nape).
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  • KeiLaniKoilsKeiLaniKoils Posts: 439Registered Users
    You could need a trim, in my opinion. The same happened to me once.
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  • katherinelovesevryonekatherinelovesevryone Posts: 230Registered Users
    This used to happen to me when I first went natural, and thinking I was damaged ends I cut off about 2-3 inches for no reason :angry3:. What I recommend is using the "Comb-Chase method" when you flat iron. You could have damaged ends but try this before you run for the scissors.
    The comb chase method is when you run a comb or detangling brush (denman type) down your hair and follow it with a flat iron. Not sure if I explained it correctly but try googling comb chase method for a better explanation.
    Or you could get a maxiglide which comb-chases for you.
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  • ajnaajna Posts: 494Registered Users
    This used to happen to me when I first went natural, and thinking I was damaged ends I cut off about 2-3 inches for no reason :angry3:. What I recommend is using the "Comb-Chase method" when you flat iron. You could have damaged ends but try this before you run for the scissors.
    The comb chase method is when you run a comb or detangling brush (denman type) down your hair and follow it with a flat iron. Not sure if I explained it correctly but try googling comb chase method for a better explanation.
    Or you could get a maxiglide which comb-chases for you.
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  • EllyEllyOxenFreeEllyEllyOxenFree Posts: 6,446Registered Users
    Comb chase for sure!!! The comb I use is in my vid on straightening - YouTube - How I Straighten My Natural Hair

    The first time I tried to straighten I didn't comb chase and got the same result you did, second time I comb chased and it was SO much better! I still couldn't wear my hair out though because it starts to revert like...as soon as I'm done, lol.
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  • bklyn_bellebklyn_belle Posts: 423Registered Users
    Thanks. I know what the comb-chase method is and it does not work for me AT ALL...1 my hand shakes to much and two even if I detangled if I try to run the tail comb or brush through it it'll rip so I have to start from the bottom. For some odd reason when I blow dried my hair the ends were hard to go through once it was fully dry yet when it was wet fresh from a condition and detangle the brush went right through. I find that very odd....Right then I had a feeling the ends would be frizzy after flat ironing. I don't think I need a trim because I blow dried twice months ago cuz I thought I had damaged ends but it's just the nature of my hair. I would say maybe my hair isn't for flat ironing but I find that impossible since the rest of my head is straight (it has not even reverted yet)
    Texture: proud 4a (3c at the nape).
    Regimen: co-wash everyday.deep condition, de-tangle and seal once a week.
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  • EllyEllyOxenFreeEllyEllyOxenFree Posts: 6,446Registered Users
    Thanks. I know what the comb-chase method is and it does not work for me AT ALL...1 my hand shakes to much and two even if I detangled if I try to run the tail comb or brush through it it'll rip so I have to start from the bottom. For some odd reason when I blow dried my hair the ends were hard to go through once it was fully dry yet when it was wet fresh from a condition and detangle the brush went right through. I find that very odd....

    How much product did you use, and what did you use? When I comb chase I use the comb with the clamp so it doesn't matter if your hand shakes. I also comb through first with the fine tooth comb so when I do it again with the iron there are no snags.
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  • bklyn_bellebklyn_belle Posts: 423Registered Users
    I used a little bit if conditioner, a lil bit of castor oil, and heat protectant. But as I was blow drying I heard snapping. Not enouggmh conditioner maybe? Or maybe the castor oil should be eliminated?
    Texture: proud 4a (3c at the nape).
    Regimen: co-wash everyday.deep condition, de-tangle and seal once a week.
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  • EllyEllyOxenFreeEllyEllyOxenFree Posts: 6,446Registered Users
    I used a little bit if conditioner, a lil bit of castor oil, and heat protectant. But as I was blow drying I heard snapping. Not enouggmh conditioner maybe? Or maybe the castor oil should be eliminated?

    That's probably too much product, especially because castor oil is thick. It's best to straighten with as little product as possible. You can use a leave-in that doubles as a heat protectant to minimize.

    Also, I don't like to blow dry my hair then flat iron anymore - blow drying personally breaks my hair off. I roller set my hair then flat ironed.
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  • sweetmx85sweetmx85 Posts: 1,017Registered Users
    It could be a mixture of things, you ends may need trimmed because I usually had the same issue when id have my hair curly for a while then flat iron, BUT for me personally I NEVER use oil on my hair when I use heat. think about what oil and heat do with meat, it frys it. If im going to flat iron my hair I clarify it to make sure all of the oils are out, i put a light leave in on it like herbal essence long term relationship one, then a heat protecting serum and a small amount of paul mitchells super skinny for shine. blow dry then ANOTHER heat protector ghd thermal spray on each section before I flat iron. just a small amount so its not a product overload. the serums i mix before i blow dry is just a dime size amount for my whole head and thats combined (the super skinny and either redkens smooth glide or design line from regis silk drops.) if my hair has too much product it wont straighten right, sometimes to smooth out the frizzy ends i go over that part slowly using a comb to make them more smooth. hth
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  • subbrocksubbrock Posts: 8,212Registered Users
    sounds like you need a trim.

    i just flat ironed my hair last week (pics are in my fotki!)and i always use the chase brush method. i this time i used my denman but i usually use a boar bristle brush. i always do it on an old wash n go. so this time i did it on the previous day's wash no go where i used elucence mb conditioner as a leave in, castor oil, and KCSS. i find that the dirtier my hair is the better because it acts like a heat protectant and it stops my hair from reverting back immediately. my ends usually tell the truth about the condition of my hair. this time they came out great but that's because my hair is healthier overall.
  • bklyn_bellebklyn_belle Posts: 423Registered Users
    Oh wow you are right oil does make meat fry I never thought of it that way. I am just paranoid of breakage so I seal allll the time. But subbrock I see that you use castor and while hair is dirty vs most people clarify and don't use oil. Hmm trial and error I guess...I am also going to trim my ends once I go back curly it's easier for me that way. Does anyone here use humidity spray? I use that to keep my hair from reverting and it works! I got it on sale at Marshall's the brand is Mizani.
    Texture: proud 4a (3c at the nape).
    Regimen: co-wash everyday.deep condition, de-tangle and seal once a week.
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  • subbrocksubbrock Posts: 8,212Registered Users
    oil does not make meat fry. the heat makes meat fry. put meat in a skillet with oil and meat in a skillet with no oil and watch what happens. the skillet with no oil is where you will get stick and easier burning. natural oils are great heat protectants and a great alternative to silicone laden heat protectants.
  • sweetmx85sweetmx85 Posts: 1,017Registered Users
    thats intresting, I saw awhile ago somewhere oil isnt good on your hair if heat is going to be on it so i stopped any my hair is much dif not having oil and heat on it like i used to i just try to keep any extra oil off of my hair if heat is going to be on it.
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  • subbrocksubbrock Posts: 8,212Registered Users
    different strokes for different folks i guess. for me and my hair, there is no way i'm going to use heat on my naked hair and natural oils are great heat protectants. just doing a quick search i found a "factoid" that says grapeseed oil resists heat up to 425 degrees. i've never had to deal with heat damage since i've been natural and i attribute that to my use of oils.

    there really isn't a product (short of alcohol or gasoline) that is going to fry your hair the instant heat touches it. it's all about the amount of heat you use.
  • AjidahkAjidahk Posts: 1,212Registered Users
    The last time I straightened my hair was like almost two monts ago. My ends were were not split, but they were very frizzy and I had little knots on many strands. I didn't clip my ends then (I was in a rush) but I clipped them last week. I am just now starting to seal my ends. This should make a difference. Anyway, go over your ends best as you can and trim the rest.

    When I straighten my hair, I wash and condition it and while it's damp, I apply my heat protectant (Sabino Moisture block ). I follow that with blow drying and after that, pressing. Once that's done, I'll add a little oil to my scalp.
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  • sweetmx85sweetmx85 Posts: 1,017Registered Users
    subbrock wrote: »
    different strokes for different folks i guess. for me and my hair, there is no way i'm going to use heat on my naked hair and natural oils are great heat protectants. just doing a quick search i found a "factoid" that says grapeseed oil resists heat up to 425 degrees. i've never had to deal with heat damage since i've been natural and i attribute that to my use of oils.

    there really isn't a product (short of alcohol or gasoline) that is going to fry your hair the instant heat touches it. it's all about the amount of heat you use.
    yeah I would never put heat on my naked hair, I use a serum protectant when I blow dry then a spray one on each section with I flat iron
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  • your cheezinessyour cheeziness Posts: 38Registered Users
    Same thing happened to me. The key is to get your technique in your blow dry or stretch process. If your ends aren't straight before it's time to flat iron, then the end results will be the same. Work on your technique to blow dry and get the ends completely stretched and you should see an improvement in your flat iron results!
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  • bklyn_bellebklyn_belle Posts: 423Registered Users
    So I asked my friend who flat ironsoften and she said she avoids oil cuz it weighs her hair down. I also searched through youtube vids and noticed some people dont use a blow dryer they either air dry or roller set first. One woman noted that her hair hates dry heat instead, it takes to steam from her flat iron I forgot what brand.
    Texture: proud 4a (3c at the nape).
    Regimen: co-wash everyday.deep condition, de-tangle and seal once a week.
    Current Favs: Treseme Naturals shampoo & conditioner, wide tooth comb, coconut oil, Shea Moisture curling smoothie, ampro clear styling gel .
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  • subbrocksubbrock Posts: 8,212Registered Users
    So I asked my friend who flat ironsoften and she said she avoids oil cuz it weighs her hair down. I also searched through youtube vids and noticed some people dont use a blow dryer they either air dry or roller set first. One woman noted that her hair hates dry heat instead, it takes to steam from her flat iron I forgot what brand.

    i never blow dry first, but that's 100% because i don't know how to blow dry without just turning my hair into a big ol' mess. LOL

    i've always wondered how those steam flat irons would work on natural hair! it doesn't cause instant reversion or anything crazy?
  • afrosheenqueenafrosheenqueen Posts: 5,400Registered Users
    My routine is similar to Elle's after much experimentation. I've used oil before but didn't like the results. It was similar to the results I get when I use too much product - frizziness and overall dullness.

    I use watery leave-ins like Infusium 23 or Biolage Daily Leave-in tonic and a little Redken Smooth down right before I iron. I'm too damn lazy to braid, twist, or roller set first but I know it would lessen the time it takes to flat iron my hair so I will next time.
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  • bklyn_bellebklyn_belle Posts: 423Registered Users
    Okay so here is an update! I co-washed and detangled then put some leave in conditioner & heat protectant in left my hair in 5 big twists overnight. The next day I took the twists down and flat ironed my results came out soooo gooooddd! I can run my hands through it I am shocked at how great it feels. So I will get rid of the blow dryer from now on and also save the castor oil for when my hair is curly.
    Texture: proud 4a (3c at the nape).
    Regimen: co-wash everyday.deep condition, de-tangle and seal once a week.
    Current Favs: Treseme Naturals shampoo & conditioner, wide tooth comb, coconut oil, Shea Moisture curling smoothie, ampro clear styling gel .
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  • GoddessLalaGoddessLala Posts: 351Registered Users
    Okay so here is an update! I co-washed and detangled then put some leave in conditioner & heat protectant in left my hair in 5 big twists overnight. The next day I took the twists down and flat ironed my results came out soooo gooooddd! I can run my hands through it I am shocked at how great it feels. So I will get rid of the blow dryer from now on and also save the castor oil for when my hair is curly.

    That's what I do. I decided to flat iron my hair, so I made sure my hair was clean by doing a bentonite clay treatment and deep conditioning. Then I detangled, added my leave-in and heat protectant before twisting my hair to dry overnight. The flat iron is heating up now :toothy8:
  • P_CP_C Posts: 1Registered Users
    I was looking all over the internet to find an answer to my question, and maybe someone knows (please help)

    About 2-3 weeks ago I straightened my hair for the first time in years, and it was fine. And then when I washed my hair my hair texture changed. Normally my hair is quite fine and easily manipulated, and it often goes quite straight after manipulating it. But once I'd washed my hair my hair texture had become quite thick and dry.

    There is still a curl pattern so I don't think it's heat damage, but I am still quite worried because no matter what I do my hair won't go back to normal.
  • Marlene.CoopMarlene.Coop Posts: 1Registered Users
    This suggestion was a great help to me, I took the extra effort to smooth my ends while blow drying and my flat ironing came out much better THANK YOU SO MUCH
  • ManesNaturalsManesNaturals Posts: 17Registered Users
    It may be a sign to that you need to have a trim.
    Having type 4 myself, I have avoid using "unnecessary heat" to prevent heat damage, and dry hair.
    So I will stretch my hair and then comb and chase my hair.
    My favourite method to stretch my hair is using roller sets (loads of youtube tutorials on how to roller set), and then applying a good quality flat iron to it using the comb and chase method. It enables to you to use a lower heat temperature, and helps maintain the health of your hair.
    Also use a heat protector when moisturising, to protect your ends and the strands, avoid using anything with alcohol in it. In essence it will dry your hair out, so I opt for using a serum instead (ic Fantasia Hair Polisher)
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