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Global Keratin Treatment FRIED my Hair!

I am devastated! My hair is normally a really nice curl 3a/b and I recently damaged it a bit by bleaching too much. The salon suggested I repair it with a Global Keratin Treatment and insisted it would allow me to keep my curl but would just repair the damaged hair.
Not in my wildest dreams did I imagine what my hair was actually going to end up looking like. It is completely ruined. My hair now looks burned and brittle, frizzy and flat at the same time. It sticks out in odd directions and resembles a ridgy stringy piece of corn silk. I am literally about to shave my head. The salon was shocked too and at least gave me my money back. The look on his face said it all. I don't even want to leave the house now.

My hair used to be one of my best features and now its beyond scary. :(

Help?

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  • SailaSaila Posts: 1,212Registered Users
    Ahhh! I'm sooo, sooo sorry about your horrible experience! :( I don't really know what to suggest except a lot of TLC - deep conditioning, protein treatments, etc. Maybe someone else has more experience with this and can give you better ideas.

    Stay strong! Don't shave of your hair just yet.
  • DimePiece17DimePiece17 Posts: 521Registered Users
    I've never read of results like this before! i'm so sorry.

    Tips:
    1. I actually would caution against protein treatments right now since this could increase in the brittle factor. Go for moisture moisture moisture!
    2. Shampoo with a gentle shampoo that contains some salt so that your can coax your curls back. I'd go for Giovanni Tea shampoo ( walmart and/or target).
    3. do a hot oil treatment of olive oil and honey before you shampoo.
    4. DC 1-2xs a week for the next 4 weeks. My honey child's olive you DC is AMAZING!!

    Give it a month! I promise it will be better!
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  • ssourgirlssourgirl Posts: 8Registered Users
    Thanks guys for the sympathy and the suggestions. I have been trying moisture and hot oil treatments and so far nothing. I'll try the salt thing as I've read that gets the protein out faster but I think my hair is pretty much hopeless. Its almost like it was burnt and I seriously doubt theres much coming back after that. I may just need to get it all cut off, try a punky doo for awhile and wait for my curls to grown back. :(
  • coilynappcoilynapp Posts: 4,233Registered Users
    I'm sorry this happened to you. There are so many scary stories with these keratin treatments it's insane

    For future reference, there is nothing you can do to repair damaged hair. You can only prevent damage. Once it has occurred, there's nothing you can do. It's all an advertising gimmick--hair products that say "repairs" are really just taking advantage of good marketing. Hair is dead. Just like if your nail cracks, you can try everything to prevent it from breaking, but it will break anyway, you can never mend the chip/break

    Try a lot of TLC for your hair, but the truth is that will not help it come back. You will probably have to start over :(

    I'm sorry and I hope you feel better about it soon
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  • jessicablair88jessicablair88 Posts: 1Registered Users
    Hello-

    I have had two Global Keratin treatments myself and they have been awesome. However, the thing with this type of treatment is when it is done by your stylist it has to be done 100% correctly. With bleached hair it is CRUCIAL that the stylist not blow dry your hair on too high of a temp. or straighten it with a straightner set above 325-350. My father is a hair stylist and his salon offers this treatment. I have highly foiled hair with high lights and low lights. I constantly change my hair so I have damaged, thick, resistant hair. We used the formula for resistant hair. Like I mentioned before, when it comes to the blow drying and straightening part of the treatment the temperatures are so important. The heat will literally fry hair, which is what I'm assuming happened :( Your best bet is to leave it un treated ( no chemicals, colors, etc) and try to condition as much as possible. I would suggest continuing to use the GC Serum with Juvexin and/or argon oil. Hope this helps
  • sassywillowsassywillow Posts: 829Registered Users
    bump. Has anyone tried the Global Keratin deep conditioner, leave-in cream and spray on non treated hair?
    Ah...to be a well pampered pootiecat. I can sleep on my owner's lap. Roll over on my back when I want my stomach rubbed. Purr with delight. Suddenly jump off and walk away for no reason. Not respond when I am called. Throw my leg up and lick with intense abandon. Sleep 85% of the time. Hang my head off the couch and view the world upside down.:laughing5:
  • Joyce M.Joyce M. Posts: 4Registered Users
    :sad8: Believe me, I understand exactly what you are talking about! I have very baby fine strands of hair and it is very kinky/curly....luckily, even though it doesn't look thick, I have lots of it...otherwise, after the Keratin treatment that was supposed to "make your hair in really great condition, fill in any damage, and make it shiny, healthy, and wavy instead of frizzy, I would have been bald!!!!! When I first heard about it, I decided to wait and see, as I do with most treatments that are new. I have learned from past experience. However, after about a year of rave reviews and having several stylists at salons approach me about this "amazing new treatment for curly hair that doesn't damage it AT ALL, and makes it frizz free, healthy, and shiny, I decided to try it. I figured I would try it once, and if I didn't like it, or it didn't work, no harm done, right??? WRONG!!!!! I swear, I feel like "going postal" on every stylist that told me how "great" it would be for my hair! While it was being done, I was really concerned, because my hair was wet with the solution all over it and she was combing it with a fine tooth comb, something I never do. Then she began to flat iron it, and I could see it smoking like crazy! I asked her several times about this and expressed my concern that the iron seemed too hot because I have baby fine strands, but she assured me that it was fine, and that this kind of extreme heat was necessary in order for the keratin (protein) to infuse inside the hair strand. She also went over and over the same section of hair again and again. My hair was not professionally straightened by any method in a salon. I used to blow dry it out after I washed it, but that's it...sometimes I would flat iron it, but maybe about once a month. I did color it about 4 times a year, because I had some grey hair (less than 30%), as I am 54. She kept assuring me that it was "not harming your hair at ALL, in fact, it is helping because the protein is filling up all of the spaces in my hair strand in order to make it smoother and frizz free"...she kept saying "you won't even have to blow dry it, and it lasts about 3-4 months. It sounded great, but I was thinking I would be very surprised if this was so, as nothing has EVER been able to straighten my hair before...I have VERY frizzy, curly hair, and I have all my life. When she was finished with the repetitive flat ironing, she rinsed or washed it out, blowdried it, etc. (I cannot remember exactly, as this was about 8 months ago. Anyway, it looked pretty straight when I left; almost "too straight", and was hanging in my face, which I found quite annoying, but she said I could not put any clips, pins, or anything in it for 72 hours, nor could I wash it (which drove me crazy, as my hair looked almost dirty to me). I normally wash it about once a week, but after a day or so my hair looked so dirty and gross! As soon as I could, I washed it. It felt kinda dry and weird, but I didn't think too much about it, as sometimes that happens after I get it colored, at least for a little while. However, it did NOT, AT NO TIME, look frizz free!!! It was VERY SLIGHTLY less frizzy, but I still had to blow dry it. I did not flat iron it, because I had just had the treatment. After about a month, my hair was even dryer than before, and I noticed that when I washed it and it had the soap in, it would get extremely tangled, and feel horribly dry and completely TRASHED!!! I was getting alarmed...kept conditioning it like crazy, but nothing seemed to help. I would also loose A LOT of hair everytime I washed it, as it was so incredibly dry and so so tangled, I could not even get my fingers through it! When I rinsed out the conditioner, this knotty ball of hair would slide down my wet hair and eventually end up at the bottom by my ends, where I would then pull it off. I did go back to the salon where it was given the "treatment", but I just got a "I've never heard of that happening" reply....I also talked to several stylists and all of them told me the same thing...we've never heard of that, and it is supposed to be non-damaging to the hair! Oh yeah? Well, guess what? It COMPLETELY TRASHED MINE!!!!!!! I was so angry and upset!!! I thought it would eventually "wear down" like most in salon treatments will do (including coloring) with persistant conditioning, but it has been about 8 months and it is still just as dry and awful as before, especially when I am shampooing it!!! I still can hardly get my fingers through my hair at all to wash it, or to condition it! Wanted to write you and let you know that you are NOT alone, and also to tell you DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, PUT ANY KIND OF PROTEIN TREATMENT ON YOUR HAIR!!!! BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THIS, AS LOTS OF CONDITIONERS, ESPECIALLY "DEEP CONDITIONERS" HAVE SOME KIND OF PROTEIN IN IT!!!! I know that the only true fix is to get it "cut off", but I really cannot do that, as my hair is so extremely curly/frizzy that if I do I will look like a pubic head, and it will take at least 2 years before it will be even long enough to put into a pony tail to pull it back! I know this because once I cut it fairly short (about 3-4 inches long) and it was so freaking curly/frizzy, it was completely out of control, and it took years to get it long enough to pull back, which drove me insane! So all I can do, as you also, is to continue to condition/oil it, but NOT with any kind of protein AT ALL, but just "moisture", as someone else mentioned. I am leery of putting silicones on it too, as I understand that it can actually prevent your hair from "breathing", and can cause it to dry out even more, if it is used frequently, so I am sticking with jojoba oil (got a bottle at the health food store) and avocado oil (also at the health food store). I condition it every time I wash it, blow dry it lightly with a protectant in it, and then put oil on it every day, everywhere except for the scalp. Even though I have some grey hair and don't color it more than 4 times a year, I have decided to completely stop coloring it at ALL, because it is drying it out even more (even though that doesn't seem possible!) I loose SO MUCH HAIR from dryness and tangles when I wash it that it freaks me out, and I have to reassure myself that I still have a lot of strands of hair, by looking at it in the mirror after I have dried it! It is the ABSOLUTE WORST condition my hair has EVER been in, and I am 54, so that's pretty bad! I think the "keratin" people, and hairdressers should be sued, and I have never sued anyone in my life before! About a month ago, I did get one hairdresser to tell me that "it really is not recommended for people who have "baby fine" hair, because it can make it dry and brittle" Yeah, well, thanks a lot for telling me now, 8 months later, after telling me how "great" it would be for my kind of hair! I know you understand and probably feel the same...I am so, so sorry that this happened to you! I would tell all of you if you have, or know anyone who has, baby fine hair and is considering "keratin" treatment, DO NOT DO IT!!!!! RUN, do not walk, but RUN AWAY as fast as you can!!!!! 10 years of blowdrying unprotected AND flat ironing every time you wash your hair could not cause as much damage as one single "keratin" treatment will!!!! By the way, I had the "Keratin Complex Coppola" treatment!!! So NO processing of any kind, NO PROTEIN or DEEP conditioners, NO FLAT IRON, for I don't know how long, probably at least a year or more, or cut it off, and never let them (Keratin people) NEAR your head again!!! So, So, So, Sorry!!!! Hope this helps! Remember, you are not alone!!!
  • Nicole IocNicole Ioc Posts: 3Registered Users
    Joyce, Im so sorry to hear of your horrific experience with that so called keratin treatment. But you can not condemn all treatments because of the one that was done on you. There are many different formulas, with different amounts of formalin in them, together with different stylist doing the treatments. I truly feel that if you get a good experienced hairdresser that is very knowledgeable in the product that they use your hair would have been fine. And Im sorry to say as a consumer we need to educate ourselves on the product line we are about to use, and ask many questions on how their product works... many stylist just read the directions on the box and have no formal education on the product they use. If we the consumers are informed (and today with the internet its easy, the product I trust, and use even have video on u tube showing how to do the treatments) its harder for someone to take advantage of us!!!
  • Shelley47Shelley47 Posts: 1Registered Users
    I had a Brazilian Blow dry done on 5 March 2011. Apart from the fact that I lost quite a bit of hair, I was extremely happy with the product. My hair was sleek and glossy, manageable and I received loads of positive comments from people that didn't even know I had anything done.
    Last week, I went for the Global Keratin treatment. Reason: I was told that it contains no chemicals and I will enjoy the same results as the Brazilian minus the hair loss. Reading the comments above, I am quite thankful that I didn't have a similar experience. However, the stylist was right about 1 thing, and 1 thing only - I experienced no hair loss. The "manageable, silky hair" was obviously a filthy lie. There is absolutely no difference or improvement in my hair. I spent $250 a week before Christmas for nothing more than a wash-blow-flat iron job. Needless to say, I am NOT impressed...

    PS: It was a TRAINED professional (AND she completed the Global Keratin course) that applied the treatment at a reputable salon I have been supporting for quite a number of months without any problems or complaints.
  • curlygirl0929curlygirl0929 Posts: 2Registered Users
    i did the same keretin treatment and now my hair looks like a combination of corn silk, weave, rope, and hair, i had very beautiful 3c hair and now it just looks like a stringy mess! Everybody says it looks "beautiful" and "pretty" but it really doesnt. :sad5::angry4:
  • lss110lss110 Posts: 2Registered Users
    i think the keratriplex treatment was sooooooo much better on my hair and is less than half the price! the keratriplex is usually around $40 which is amazing compared to $100 that the normal keratin treatments usually are...i dont know how but i sware the keratin treatments made my hair worse. the keratriplex has made my hair sooo much healthier and shinier. its definitely worth trying because its so cheap.
  • adthomasadthomas Posts: 5,525Registered Users
    In reading the op's story I dont understand why anyone would try to fix chemical damage with more chemicals. Makes no sense to me except the stylist was trying to get paid more. Reading this helps remind me why I dont fool with chemicals or extreme heat. Those are the two things I know are capable of jacking up my hair beyond repair if done wrong.
    Yes, it's real. No, you can't touch it. :wav:
  • sadmichellesadmichelle Posts: 1Registered Users
    i had long blonde hair and not damaged! but i didnt want to damage it so i thought about keratin straightening for 4 years! IT HAD TO BE COMPLETELY CHOPPED OFF cuz of the same exact promise BUT I WAS NOT EVEN OFFERED A REFUND and im just devistated completely to the point of tears (none of my family and friends even recognize me they said!!!) and thats NOT me at all...tears? maybe the wrong blonde at times and frustrated but never burned!

    3 years growing my hair out and 10 years of Yuko (NO PROBLEMS EVER!) down the drain and i dont think i should have to pay to have my hair BURNED to the point it had to ALL BE CHOPPED OFF TO MY EARS. Im so depressed i dont even walk my dog till after midnight and have had comments like "WHAT THE HELL DID YOU DO TO YOUR HAIR" even before chopped now i might as well not even leave the house at all.
  • cocoa brazilcocoa brazil Posts: 1Registered Users
    My Hair very curly now I m use best product Hair Botox Treatment ,new ,not chemical, my hair complet beautiful,no frizz , reduce de volume , shine, smooth,I m very happy
  • FinenfrizzFinenfrizz Posts: 3Registered Users
    Does anyone have advice on how to get the body back in the my hair. I had the treatment done 48 hrs ago and have since washed it. My hair before the treatment was very fine and frizzy with lose curls. As of right now it is dead flat, and it looks like I have hardly any hair. I was told the body would come back, but I'm in a panic. I have a big event to go to in 3 days. I believe the treatment was the coppola keratin. I don't know if I should chill out and have faith or start scrubbing with salt now?
  • MixedchicMixedchic Posts: 33Registered Users
    I've never read of results like this before! i'm so sorry.

    Tips:
    1. I actually would caution against protein treatments right now since this could increase in the brittle factor. Go for moisture moisture moisture!
    2. Shampoo with a gentle shampoo that contains some salt so that your can coax your curls back. I'd go for Giovanni Tea shampoo ( walmart and/or target).
    3. do a hot oil treatment of olive oil and honey before you shampoo.
    4. DC 1-2xs a week for the next 4 weeks. My honey child's olive you DC is AMAZING!!

    Give it a month! I promise it will be better!

    DONT SHAMPOO!!!! Use the cg method. The natural oils will help heal your hair, trust me
  • FinenfrizzFinenfrizz Posts: 3Registered Users
    Thank you for the advice. I will try that today.
  • zalimzalim Posts: 52Registered Users
    bump. Has anyone tried the Global Keratin deep conditioner, leave-in cream and spray on non treated hair?

    Yes, I was using the Global Keratin leave-in cream and leave-in spray conditioner after I got my hair keratined. They were both amazing products and I loved the smell. BUT they only worked while the keratin was still in my hair. They are not strong enough for me now with most of my natural curl back.
  • zalimzalim Posts: 52Registered Users
    Shelley47 wrote: »
    However, the stylist was right about 1 thing, and 1 thing only - I experienced no hair loss. The "manageable, silky hair" was obviously a filthy lie. There is absolutely no difference or improvement in my hair. I spent $250 a week before Christmas for nothing more than a wash-blow-flat iron job. Needless to say, I am NOT impressed...

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    Hi Shelley,

    I sympathize. I did the original Global Keratin four times (and one treatment of Brazilian Blowout) in one year and saw dramatic improvements in my hair texture for 1-2 months. Those treatments also cost an average of $300. I have never been convinced that the "light" versions of these treatment work. I believe the formaldehyde is the active ingredient (not the keratin) so if there's no formaldehyde, the product is no different than pouring conditioner on your head and washing it out. Sorry you're out $250 but at least it didn't leave damage behind.

    Aveda has introduced its own version of keratin treatments. There's hardly any information out there about it though. There's one girl on YouTube who says it made no different in her hair either. I am waiting for a healthy, effective alternative to GK and in the meantime, considering a hair texturizer to loosen my roots.
  • LadyJLiveLadyJLive Posts: 1Registered Users
    Joyce (my name is Joyce too), I had the very same experience with Keratin treatments (I had two). The first one, I loved. Completely loved. So much that I got another one 6 months later. That was my mistake. That's when I started experiencing everything that you described. Now, I use Hesh Shikakai Powder and Amla powder mixes to wash and strengthen my hair. There is still some hair coming out, but not nearly as much as before. Shikakai powder strengthens and defines the curl pattern which I love. I may be psyching myself out, but I feel better knowing that I'm not loosing as much as before. I agree... STAY FAR AWAY FROM KERATIN PROTEIN TREATMENTS!!!!
  • jill.isaacsjill.isaacs Posts: 1Registered Users
    I have long layered fine, yet lots of it hair. it is curly/wavy/ frizzy hair naturally. If I don't brush it after I wash/ cond. it dries in loose curls which are mildly frizzy (ie de-cluster and go different ways) and after a nights sleep they become "soft frizz" body waves. I generally pull it into a pony tail and wear a baseball cap until the next wash unless I take the time to "do" it. I hate doing my hair so a keratin treatment seemed to be a dream come true. I have had 3 keratin treatments over the last 18 months. The first was super flat but after a month my natural curl started growing in and I got some body and then I loved my hair!!! It was how I always wished it would be. it looked thick, had body but NO FRIZZ! The 2nd was more wavy, a little more frizzy and the thin, angel fine hairs around my face were frizzed straight. I went back for a 3rd hoping that if I told her about the last treatment she would adjust her method to prevent this happening again. This time it initially looked great until i washed it after 72 hours. when i started to blow dry it my hair looked like it had static electricity making it stand up in different directions. By the time it was fully dry my hair looked like a wet cat that stuck its finger into an electrical socket. I was at the gym and I was soooooo embarrassed. I took the flat iron to it (which I never usually use) out of desperation and I was able to make it look pretty good but still the ends look like they are split. I just washed it a 2nd time and had the same experience. It is so depressing because my hair has always been my best external feature and like I said before, I hate doing my hair. now I HAVE to do it else I look like a science experiment - no joke. I haven't noticed much hair loss so far.
    I'm sorry for the long intro but i'm hoping someone can give me situation specific help: I don't want to cut my hair if I don't have to. Is there anything I can do to remedy my frizzy fried nightmare hair? i have to hot iron because otherwise my hair is a long haired straight kinky afro. But I'm so afraid this will damage it more. i'm using the Keratin shampoo/ cond. and deep treatment but I'm seeing others say not to. I'm so confused. Please tell me what to do. T.hank you in advance
  • Leah1234Leah1234 Posts: 1Registered Users
    My pre-GK hair was like cotton candy --- totally frizzy and thick. Well, since I had 3 GK treatments, it is now still totally frizzy -- but THIN. I loved the treatment the first time, and so I had it done 2 more times. It smoothed my hair beautifully, but eventually, I realized my hair was falling out. It became so brittle that it was breaking off and falling out to the point where I've lost at least 1/3 or more of my hair volume. It now looks like frizzly dried cornsilk or like the hair you would find on one of the Living Dead's heads. I'm doing everything I possibly can to keep from having to cut it down to the new growth, which would be wayyyyyyyyy too short, as the new growth is now only about 5-6 inches, and my hair is shoulder length. I wear it up a lot, use morroccan oil, heavy conditioners and gels to keep it from flying away totally. It truly looks horrible. How GK can be billed as "formaldehyde free" and used at Aveda salons is beyond me. I am heartsick at what happened to my previously thick head of hair -- which wasn't great, but it wasn't THIS. It's too late for me, until my hair grows out, but I'm posting this as a word of warning -- if it seems too good to be true, it probably IS. DO NOT DO GK!!
  • Firefox7275Firefox7275 Posts: 3,750Registered Users
    The main problem is not the product ingredients but the high temperature of the flat iron on less than bone dry hair.

    Formaldehyde is considered a risk to inhale or absorb through living skin.
    2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

    CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
    Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
    Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
    Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
    Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
    Experimenting with: benign neglect
  • tchristiansohntchristiansohn Posts: 1Registered Users
    Hi everybody. So nice to be in a place where everyone is so kind and supportive of each other. I am very sad about what happened to your hair. It is scary, and many hairdressers will hard-sell expensive services. Of course, assuring you all the while of their competence. And when do they EVER offer you the option of having a preliminary strand test to make sure the treatment will be ok for YOUR hair ? !!!

    A woman I know named Margee is one of the best, most knowledgeable hairdressers around, and her work is amazing. I would like to share what she taught me. Being armed with the right questions ahead of time can help you ascertain if the hair stylist you are considering is right for you.

    BEFORE: My hair was fine, frizzy and curly. About a 3B, but with more frizz. I could not brush it without pulling it out of my scalp and/or breaking the ends. In the years past, I would use a chemical straightener occasionally, but it would revert. I had reached the point where I had given up. It would get even more frizzy, unbrushable and uncomfortable with even a small amount humidity.

    If your hairdresser does Keratin right, you get beautiful hair; if the person doesn't know what they are doing, your hair will get burnt or even fall out.

    AFTER: Margee treated my hair, it was miraculous. I can now brush my hair; it is glossy and slightly wavy. I have the option to style it very straight, but I prefer it with a little natural looking wave. I no longer have tons of hair pulled out in my hairbrush, and my floor is no longer littered with breakage. And no damage whatsoever. The hair has weight and movement and is about two inches above my waist. After a month and a half, with the ends trimmed, it is growing out without breakage on the ends from brushing, and styling is completely optional. Humid air is no longer a problem.

    So this is what I learned:

    1. Many of the Keratin treatments and Brazilian treatments contain formaldehyde. This, along with heat, bonds the keratin to the hair. Margee uses a low formaldehyde formula. She will not do Brazillian because it produces even worse formaldehyde fumes. She says the formulas listed as "no formaldehyde" that she has tried are still noxious. And, any product that contains formaldehyde must be used cautiously.

    Given that, if your hairdresser gets the formaldehyde on your scalp, your follicles will be stressed and your hair may fall out.

    2. High heat with a curling iron is an issue we know about, particularly with fine or processed hair. But I found out there is more:
    a. Using a high quality ionic flat iron is important; others are not as effective and can damage the hair because the hairdresser has to struggle to adequately flat iron the client's hair. ("struggling" means the person will be making more passes, turning the heat up higher to get the desired straightening or running the flat iron too slowly over the hair.)
    b. When Margee flat ironed my hair, it was done with one pass. She has excellent manual dexterity gained from many years of experience. NO double passes over strands. Her flat iron glided through the hair FAST. Too slow will burn the hair. Just like leaving a hot clothing iron on your garments too long.
    c. Flat ironing when wet will damage the hair. The hair needs to be absolutely dry. Steam under pressure is hotter than boiling water, and concentrated steam can cause terrible burns.

    4. With most Keratin treatments, there is a 3 to 4 day waiting period before you can wash. And when you finally can shampoo, you need to use a shampoo that DOES NOT have Sodium Laurel Sulfate. It will strip the keratin treatment from your hair. There are special shampoos made for after-keratin treatments. About $20, but a bottle will last about 3 to 4 months on my long hair. I wash every 2 to 3 days.

    5. Margee also advised me not to get conditioner on my scalp. I never did rub conditioner into my scalp, but I thought this was an interesting piece of info. Many conditioners and even some shampoos contain dimethicone, and given my fine hair, dimethicone can deprive the roots of oxygen and result in hair loss.

    So there is what I've learned so far. Hope it helps to prevent someone from having a keratin disaster, and I wish you the best in finding a stylist who will work with you competently and honestly. :angel7:
  • Betty.TashjiBetty.Tashji Posts: 3Registered Users
    That's a horrifying story. So sorry that happened to you. I've had a couple of horrible ombre stories as well, where a couple of inches from tips were fried! I did so many treatments then got tired of making home remedies. Not too long ago, I started using this masque from MAAZ products and I swear I was hooked. The texture and smell was so delicious. Finally i felt like my hair would be ok and saw the light at the end of the tunnel. I havent stopped using it since. Best 40 dollars I ever invested!

    Oh I think they are only online. Google Maaz Products

    Hope this helps you as much as it helped me :)
  • maryware77maryware77 Posts: 45Registered Users
    Perhaps you should have tried The Best JUVEXIN Treatment. Natural and 100% safe with good results as I had personally done it!
  • Jan.RandelJan.Randel Posts: 1Registered Users
    Joyce M. wrote: »
    :sad8: Believe me, I understand exactly what you are talking about! I have very baby fine strands of hair and it is very kinky/curly....luckily, even though it doesn't look thick, I have lots of it...otherwise, after the Keratin treatment that was supposed to "make your hair in really great condition, fill in any damage, and make it shiny, healthy, and wavy instead of frizzy, I would have been bald!!!!! When I first heard about it, I decided to wait and see, as I do with most treatments that are new. I have learned from past experience. However, after about a year of rave reviews and having several stylists at salons approach me about this "amazing new treatment for curly hair that doesn't damage it AT ALL, and makes it frizz free, healthy, and shiny, I decided to try it. I figured I would try it once, and if I didn't like it, or it didn't work, no harm done, right??? WRONG!!!!! I swear, I feel like "going postal" on every stylist that told me how "great" it would be for my hair! While it was being done, I was really concerned, because my hair was wet with the solution all over it and she was combing it with a fine tooth comb, something I never do. Then she began to flat iron it, and I could see it smoking like crazy! I asked her several times about this and expressed my concern that the iron seemed too hot because I have baby fine strands, but she assured me that it was fine, and that this kind of extreme heat was necessary in order for the keratin (protein) to infuse inside the hair strand. She also went over and over the same section of hair again and again. My hair was not professionally straightened by any method in a salon. I used to blow dry it out after I washed it, but that's it...sometimes I would flat iron it, but maybe about once a month. I did color it about 4 times a year, because I had some grey hair (less than 30%), as I am 54. She kept assuring me that it was "not harming your hair at ALL, in fact, it is helping because the protein is filling up all of the spaces in my hair strand in order to make it smoother and frizz free"...she kept saying "you won't even have to blow dry it, and it lasts about 3-4 months. It sounded great, but I was thinking I would be very surprised if this was so, as nothing has EVER been able to straighten my hair before...I have VERY frizzy, curly hair, and I have all my life. When she was finished with the repetitive flat ironing, she rinsed or washed it out, blowdried it, etc. (I cannot remember exactly, as this was about 8 months ago. Anyway, it looked pretty straight when I left; almost "too straight", and was hanging in my face, which I found quite annoying, but she said I could not put any clips, pins, or anything in it for 72 hours, nor could I wash it (which drove me crazy, as my hair looked almost dirty to me). I normally wash it about once a week, but after a day or so my hair looked so dirty and gross! As soon as I could, I washed it. It felt kinda dry and weird, but I didn't think too much about it, as sometimes that happens after I get it colored, at least for a little while. However, it did NOT, AT NO TIME, look frizz free!!! It was VERY SLIGHTLY less frizzy, but I still had to blow dry it. I did not flat iron it, because I had just had the treatment. After about a month, my hair was even dryer than before, and I noticed that when I washed it and it had the soap in, it would get extremely tangled, and feel horribly dry and completely TRASHED!!! I was getting alarmed...kept conditioning it like crazy, but nothing seemed to help. I would also loose A LOT of hair everytime I washed it, as it was so incredibly dry and so so tangled, I could not even get my fingers through it! When I rinsed out the conditioner, this knotty ball of hair would slide down my wet hair and eventually end up at the bottom by my ends, where I would then pull it off. I did go back to the salon where it was given the "treatment", but I just got a "I've never heard of that happening" reply....I also talked to several stylists and all of them told me the same thing...we've never heard of that, and it is supposed to be non-damaging to the hair! Oh yeah? Well, guess what? It COMPLETELY TRASHED MINE!!!!!!! I was so angry and upset!!! I thought it would eventually "wear down" like most in salon treatments will do (including coloring) with persistant conditioning, but it has been about 8 months and it is still just as dry and awful as before, especially when I am shampooing it!!! I still can hardly get my fingers through my hair at all to wash it, or to condition it! Wanted to write you and let you know that you are NOT alone, and also to tell you DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, PUT ANY KIND OF PROTEIN TREATMENT ON YOUR HAIR!!!! BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THIS, AS LOTS OF CONDITIONERS, ESPECIALLY "DEEP CONDITIONERS" HAVE SOME KIND OF PROTEIN IN IT!!!! I know that the only true fix is to get it "cut off", but I really cannot do that, as my hair is so extremely curly/frizzy that if I do I will look like a pubic head, and it will take at least 2 years before it will be even long enough to put into a pony tail to pull it back! I know this because once I cut it fairly short (about 3-4 inches long) and it was so freaking curly/frizzy, it was completely out of control, and it took years to get it long enough to pull back, which drove me insane! So all I can do, as you also, is to continue to condition/oil it, but NOT with any kind of protein AT ALL, but just "moisture", as someone else mentioned. I am leery of putting silicones on it too, as I understand that it can actually prevent your hair from "breathing", and can cause it to dry out even more, if it is used frequently, so I am sticking with jojoba oil (got a bottle at the health food store) and avocado oil (also at the health food store). I condition it every time I wash it, blow dry it lightly with a protectant in it, and then put oil on it every day, everywhere except for the scalp. Even though I have some grey hair and don't color it more than 4 times a year, I have decided to completely stop coloring it at ALL, because it is drying it out even more (even though that doesn't seem possible!) I loose SO MUCH HAIR from dryness and tangles when I wash it that it freaks me out, and I have to reassure myself that I still have a lot of strands of hair, by looking at it in the mirror after I have dried it! It is the ABSOLUTE WORST condition my hair has EVER been in, and I am 54, so that's pretty bad! I think the "keratin" people, and hairdressers should be sued, and I have never sued anyone in my life before! About a month ago, I did get one hairdresser to tell me that "it really is not recommended for people who have "baby fine" hair, because it can make it dry and brittle" Yeah, well, thanks a lot for telling me now, 8 months later, after telling me how "great" it would be for my kind of hair! I know you understand and probably feel the same...I am so, so sorry that this happened to you! I would tell all of you if you have, or know anyone who has, baby fine hair and is considering "keratin" treatment, DO NOT DO IT!!!!! RUN, do not walk, but RUN AWAY as fast as you can!!!!! 10 years of blowdrying unprotected AND flat ironing every time you wash your hair could not cause as much damage as one single "keratin" treatment will!!!! By the way, I had the "Keratin Complex Coppola" treatment!!! So NO processing of any kind, NO PROTEIN or DEEP conditioners, NO FLAT IRON, for I don't know how long, probably at least a year or more, or cut it off, and never let them (Keratin people) NEAR your head again!!! So, So, So, Sorry!!!! Hope this helps! Remember, you are not alone!!!
    I am right there with you - horrified and nothing works. I have had great keratin treatments before but this new stylist tried my hair with keratin. Should I just get it cut extremely short? It's not growing out.