Uneven Curl Type & Growth! Help please!!

Hi everyone! So as you can see from my picture "sort of" I have long... currently waist length 3b curly hair. I usually keep it straight for half the month and curly for the other half, its healthy, no hair dyes, I use organic conditioners, no gels or sprays or anything like that, and I trim the ends regularly.
I have to admit that I have trouble keeping it curly, but not because I don't like the curl, in fact I'd always have it curly if it weren't for my issues with unevenness. I have type 3 almost 2 wave on top where the crown and bangs area are, then for the majority of my hair I am an exact 3b but the cause of drama in my hair is definitely the middle back part of my hair, you can't see it when my hair is straightened or in a curly ponytail... but if I leave it normal... it will stick out only in the back due to the fact that the hair in this area is dry, brittle, doesn't grow 3c almost 4 type! it's a drastic drastic difference to the rest of my hair! and I don't know what to do.

My hair grows super fast, and I've cut it a billion times so that the middle hair grows the same as the rest, but nothing... as usual I end up with super long crown, front and sides... and short back/middle... not to mention dry and breakage prone. Should I just cut it all again? And keep it should or BSL forever, anyone else have this issue? I miss when my hair was TBL but its a hassle with the back... Any advice, miracle growth, texture changer, words of wisdom would count! :angel5:

P.S. photos are me straight/wavy and the other is my 3b curls
http://massielmancebo.wordpress.com/
Hair Type: 3B with a concoction of random 3a/3c mixed in.:blob3:
Fine/Normal Texture, Oily/ Normal, Normal Porosity, No hair dyes, no chemicals, all natural.
Deep Conditioning Treatment: Honey&Coconut Conditioner mixed together for lightening and protein.

Organix Coconut Shampoo (Sulfate free):glasses2:
I switch up my normal conditioners all the time.

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  • EllyEllyOxenFreeEllyEllyOxenFree Posts: 6,446Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    It's very rare for a curly to have all the same hair type on your head. It's just how curly hair is. The best thing you can do is make sure you focus on that section when you deep condition. hth
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  • Marci PieMarci Pie Posts: 668Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I just went to a Devacut specialist and he doesn't like the curl "labels" so to speak because he thinks that some of us have more than 1 curl type. This is what you are describing.

    I do think that wearing your hair straight is probably why your curls are all over the place especially if you are using flat irons.

    My suggestion to you is not straighten your hair and to do weekly conditioning. Keep getting your ends trimmed and I think your hair will respond. If you do need to straighten your hair then set your hair on large rollers and wrap after.

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  • NaturalistaNaturalista Posts: 5,491Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    ITA with Elle and Marcie. You need a heat break, and you need protein treatments and deep conditioning treatments to combat the breakage and to give moisture to those curls. There is a chance that the wavier parts may revert. They may not. Regular trims should help.

    Once your hair has recovered, then I would consider getting a structured dry curly cut (Deva cut) to give balance.

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  • anonymous_17170anonymous_17170 Posts: 29Registered Users
    Thank you for your responses!! I can definitely use the advice.

    I actually have cut my hair very often in hopes of reverting the wavier sides and making the curlier sides to match the supposed"3b" parts jeje, but the wavy side has been wavy since I was a kid, its never turned curly its just the way my hair is:cry:... short or long. I actually wasn't too keen on straightening it very much but lately for the sake of change and management I've been straightening it... precisely because of that back hair that is so curly and hard to manage... it's always been that way though even before when I never used styling products.

    I'm glad to know its normal... but I just wish someone knew of a product or something that could make that back part of my hair grow just as fast as my other hair and stronger!!

    Or else I might just do what some celebrities did a few years back... shave the back part haha.:tongue5:

    Any protein, growth products that have worked??? Let me know please...
    http://massielmancebo.wordpress.com/
    Hair Type: 3B with a concoction of random 3a/3c mixed in.:blob3:
    Fine/Normal Texture, Oily/ Normal, Normal Porosity, No hair dyes, no chemicals, all natural.
    Deep Conditioning Treatment: Honey&Coconut Conditioner mixed together for lightening and protein.

    Organix Coconut Shampoo (Sulfate free):glasses2:
    I switch up my normal conditioners all the time.
  • espresso.curlsespresso.curls Posts: 94Registered Users
    Thank you for your responses!! I can definitely use the advice.

    I actually have cut my hair very often in hopes of reverting the wavier sides and making the curlier sides to match the supposed"3b" parts jeje, but the wavy side has been wavy since I was a kid, its never turned curly its just the way my hair is:cry:... short or long. I actually wasn't too keen on straightening it very much but lately for the sake of change and management I've been straightening it... precisely because of that back hair that is so curly and hard to manage... it's always been that way though even before when I never used styling products.

    I'm glad to know its normal... but I just wish someone knew of a product or something that could make that back part of my hair grow just as fast as my other hair and stronger!!

    Or else I might just do what some celebrities did a few years back... shave the back part haha.:tongue5:

    Any protein, growth products that have worked??? Let me know please...

    Hehe, you must be my hair twin!!... Kind of, LoL.

    My hair is kinda flat and wavy on top, 2c and 3a curls on the right side, and 3b and 3c curls on the left. In the back, I have 2c curls underneath and a mixture of 3a and 3b curls on top. There is a small section of hair on the left and right sides that are pretty much straight, but I've been able to coax a bit of curl into those sections.

    Yes... Very mixed hair, hehe. All of my hair grows about the same speed, but sometimes it looks like the 2c/3a curls grow faster because they're not as tightly curled as the 3b/3c curls.

    I've never used growth products, but I've been loading on the conditioners and doing a lot of conditioning treatments to help my hair out. I used to flat iron all the time to keep my hair straight (management reasons. didn't think i had the time to style my curly hair every day, haha). But, I've been determined not to straighten as much to keep my hair healthy.

    Be creative! Find a hair cut that suits your mixture of curliness. And have fun experimenting with different styles! It's all fun :)
    Just rockin' the natural curls.
  • rbbrbb Posts: 4,355Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    i have the opposite -- the back bottom of my hair grows very fast, the front/sides grow slowly.
    most curlies have different curl patterns, and different growth cycles, that is why a good stylist who understands this is optimal, they can cut it to mimimize that disparity. it does not have to be a deva cut or a dry cut, but it should be done by someone who truly has an understanding of this type of hair.
    and conditioning, conditioning......

    3a, some 2c & 3b, medium texture, porosity normal, low elasticity :-(
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  • espresso.curlsespresso.curls Posts: 94Registered Users
    rbb wrote: »
    i have the opposite -- the back bottom of my hair grows very fast, the front/sides grow slowly.
    most curlies have different curl patterns, and different growth cycles, that is why a good stylist who understands this is optimal, they can cut it to mimimize that disparity. it does not have to be a deva cut or a dry cut, but it should be done by someone who truly has an understanding of this type of hair.
    and conditioning, conditioning......

    Yes, ditto about finding someone who understands the hair when going for a hair cut. This is essential.

    I cut my own hair, but I do not advise anyone who isn't already doing so, or who isn't a stylist, or (especially) anyone who does not have good hand-eye coordination to do this... Unless of course you are prepared to walk around looking like a hot mess for a year or so... Or, bald...?
    Just rockin' the natural curls.
  • anonymous_17170anonymous_17170 Posts: 29Registered Users
    @Latteandmocha: Love you pic by the way... I'm a guitarist myself! hurray for curly guitarists! and your hair mix sounds exactly like mine... I actually do have hair at the bottom that's practically straight, and if I ever brush my hair while wet into a pony tail... I look like I have all 2c hair... except for that one crazy bit in the back of course.

    I know about the cuts at salons and stuff... but to make a confession I've never in my life had my hair cut at a salon, I usually cut it myself or my mom cuts it LOL, I have a great fear of unknown people with scissors going towards my hair... after all I can always laugh at myself if I mess up my hair but if some salon lady does it... after I paid... yep so not good.

    AlSO... I'm trying to make my hair grow evenly... because I have cut it... my last 3-4 inch cut was in July of 2010 I had it BSL and now its WL I want to grow it back to my "mermaid hair" as I call it... when it was TBL... so all else fails I will walk around with my uneven hair...

    I'm guessing I'm going to ignore the crazy little piece that doesn't grow... really it doesn't, I've measured it... I have some layers on the crown to balance the wavy/straight part... and the sides and pretty much the rest of my hair is waist length... the weird back part?? BSL!! I'm going to have to draw a diagram to explain this better.

    @RBB- You're so lucky!! the back part growing faster makes your hair look longer faster.... I mean if you have shorter sides or front your hair will always grow into a nice layered cut... with obvious length at the back... when you have a short back part to your hair... it will grow like... well... kind of like a longabob... the Victoria Beckham haircut but long and weird.
    http://massielmancebo.wordpress.com/
    Hair Type: 3B with a concoction of random 3a/3c mixed in.:blob3:
    Fine/Normal Texture, Oily/ Normal, Normal Porosity, No hair dyes, no chemicals, all natural.
    Deep Conditioning Treatment: Honey&Coconut Conditioner mixed together for lightening and protein.

    Organix Coconut Shampoo (Sulfate free):glasses2:
    I switch up my normal conditioners all the time.
  • Farah85Farah85 Posts: 90Registered Users
    The solution to all of your problems is a good haircut and lots of conditioning. You need to account for the different textures on your head when your hair is cut, otherwise it will only look good when it's straight. You will need to cut the looser curls/waves shorter than the tight curls at the back. I have the opposite problem, my canopy and hair framing my face is very tightly coiled, the back is frustrating waves and I have SUPER straight underlayers that are just there. Before I used to bully my hairdressers (ok, not bully, emphatically request) into LISTENING to me before taking to their shears, I always left frustrated. What I do now is something like this:

    "Before you cut my hair I need to explain it to you, otherwise I will leave in tears." and I proceed to explain the different textures on my head. If you arrive early it helps to have this conversation using your dry hair as a demonstration. Show them the problem areas. Tell them what you think could fix them. See if they're willing to do a dry cut (I never had one, I wish I can get them here) and talk them through it. Tell them that you also wear your hair straight so it needs to work out that way too. You shouldn't have a problem with that because your front layers are going to be the short ones (If I straighten my hair I look funny because I get my back hairs cut shorter than the front, but I don't straighten so that's ok!).

    Basically, a good cut will eliminate 90% of your frustration with your hair, and you would spend less of your time trying to beat it into a shape it won't take and more of your time enjoying it (and doing other things!).

    Other than that, as far as the heat damage goes (which is why your hairs in the 4s are dry and brittle) you need to do lots of protein treatments, deep conditioning and less exposure to heat (or use protection against heat).

    HTH!
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  • letta510letta510 Posts: 60Registered Users
    girl your tighter curls just need more attention. moistuize them more than you would the rest of your hair and try not to dry brush or comb while curly because that will make it break more and just cause more uneveness
  • espresso.curlsespresso.curls Posts: 94Registered Users
    @Latteandmocha: Love you pic by the way... I'm a guitarist myself! hurray for curly guitarists!

    Yay for curly guitarists!!! Haha, seems like there are quite a bit of us on this forum! :D
    and your hair mix sounds exactly like mine... I actually do have hair at the bottom that's practically straight, and if I ever brush my hair while wet into a pony tail... I look like I have all 2c hair... except for that one crazy bit in the back of course.

    My hair does the exact same thing when I put it in a ponytail (and brush it out). Haha, wow definitely hair twins.
    Just rockin' the natural curls.

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