Low Porosity questions

AfroPRChicaAfroPRChica Posts: 200Registered Users
I'm so excited to see that we have a section for us! :) Most of my hair problems have been attributed to my low-porosity! Anyways I just had a few questions that are confusing the heck out of me. I'd appreciate it if someone could help me!

Are humectants ok to use for our type? How about in low or high dew points? Or is that just dependent on the individual? I see some people with low porosity say that they can't use them, and some say they love them.

Are oils a problem for our hair type and why or why not? Again, I see some people with low porosity that say they can't use it, while some say they can. Is that something else that just depends on the person? I was sealing with EVOO but I skipped it yesterday and for some reason my hair felt a lot softer.
-Mostly 3C with some 4A.
-Currently APL.
-Shorterm Goal: BSL by end of the year.
-Longterm Goal: WL in 2 years.
-Medium/coarse hair, Low Porosity, Low-Elasticity, Medium Density.

Rotation:

Co-wash: Suave Naturals Cond. (any)
Rinse Out: Tresemee Naturals Moisture
DC: GVP Cond. Balm, SM DC, & EVOO
Leave in: SM Conditioning Milk
Sealant: EVOO Or Whipped Shea
Gel: SM Curl Souffle

Afro-Latinas...visit my blog!:

http://afrolatinaisbeautiful.blogspot.com/

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  • geckogecko Posts: 313Registered Users
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  • AfroPRChicaAfroPRChica Posts: 200Registered Users
    gecko wrote: »
    For sealing or adding shine to hair, I am sticking with oils or butters that do not penetrate the hair shaft. I imagine penetrating oils in conditioner formulations are fine.

    I did a side by side test on day 2 hair when it was looking dry. On one side I used olive oil and the other I used almond oil (smoothed, finger combed, gently scrunched on dry hair). Initially, both sides looked the same - more shiny, not so dry. (How many times can I say dry in one paragraph?) After several hours, the almond oil side looked good, but the olive oil side looked stringy with many flyaways (crimped, maybe over-product frizz). I think the difference is that olive oil can penetrate the hair shaft and almond oil does not (I don't think). When I use up the almond oil (already had it around), I plan to seal with safflower or sunflower oil because they are not comedogenic or irritating and won't penetrate the hair - will just sit on top and not bug my neck. Coconut oil can penetrate the shaft (slower than oo); Shea and most others cannot. Dunno if straight saff or sun oil will work, but can always cook with it if it turns out gummy.

    My favorite conditioners are heavy, have oils, and little humectant / no glycerin. Did not like humectant heavy (well-liked CG) conditioners I tried last fall / this winter (in mod dews). Maybe that will change with more time CG. However, I just discovered I like refreshing my hair with glycerin heavy product (tried during moderate dew points). I'd like to see what others say about humectants and low porosity.
    Is your hair type 2C? If so I had no idea wavies seal their hair! So why do you think it is that the non-penetrating oil worked better for you? I was thinking that penetrating oil would be better since a lot of low porosity ladies have complained that non-penetrating oil just sits on top. I'm so confused lol. I found that my hair loves my humectant heavy cond., but the dew point is perfect so that could be why. With conditioner I don't think it has a prob with oils, but the humectant one just worked better. My prob is figuring out what kind of leave in would work best.
    -Mostly 3C with some 4A.
    -Currently APL.
    -Shorterm Goal: BSL by end of the year.
    -Longterm Goal: WL in 2 years.
    -Medium/coarse hair, Low Porosity, Low-Elasticity, Medium Density.

    Rotation:

    Co-wash: Suave Naturals Cond. (any)
    Rinse Out: Tresemee Naturals Moisture
    DC: GVP Cond. Balm, SM DC, & EVOO
    Leave in: SM Conditioning Milk
    Sealant: EVOO Or Whipped Shea
    Gel: SM Curl Souffle

    Afro-Latinas...visit my blog!:

    http://afrolatinaisbeautiful.blogspot.com/
  • EllyEllyOxenFreeEllyEllyOxenFree Posts: 6,446Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    m_cruz2007 wrote: »
    I'm so excited to see that we have a section for us! :) Most of my hair problems have been attributed to my low-porosity! Anyways I just had a few questions that are confusing the heck out of me. I'd appreciate it if someone could help me!

    Are humectants ok to use for our type? How about in low or high dew points? Or is that just dependent on the individual? I see some people with low porosity say that they can't use them, and some say they love them.

    Are oils a problem for our hair type and why or why not? Again, I see some people with low porosity that say they can't use it, while some say they can. Is that something else that just depends on the person? I was sealing with EVOO but I skipped it yesterday and for some reason my hair felt a lot softer.

    - I only have issues with glycerin in low or high dews, so it really depends on your hair. My hair loves honey in all dews.

    - I don't like oils on wet hair because they don't really absorb. I only use them if my LI doesn't have enough slip on its own and has a lot of water. But oil based products usually do not absorb into my hair when it's wet. It's terrible. Castor oil on wet hair - hard crunchy hair.
    BC'ed: 26 Dec 09
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  • AfroPRChicaAfroPRChica Posts: 200Registered Users
    ellepixie wrote: »
    m_cruz2007 wrote: »
    I'm so excited to see that we have a section for us! :) Most of my hair problems have been attributed to my low-porosity! Anyways I just had a few questions that are confusing the heck out of me. I'd appreciate it if someone could help me!

    Are humectants ok to use for our type? How about in low or high dew points? Or is that just dependent on the individual? I see some people with low porosity say that they can't use them, and some say they love them.

    Are oils a problem for our hair type and why or why not? Again, I see some people with low porosity that say they can't use it, while some say they can. Is that something else that just depends on the person? I was sealing with EVOO but I skipped it yesterday and for some reason my hair felt a lot softer.

    - I only have issues with glycerin in low or high dews, so it really depends on your hair. My hair loves honey in all dews.

    - I don't like oils on wet hair because they don't really absorb. I only use them if my LI doesn't have enough slip on its own and has a lot of water. But oil based products usually do not absorb into my hair when it's wet. It's terrible. Castor oil on wet hair - hard crunchy hair.
    Oh okay, so I'll have to just to observe my hair in high dews to see how it goes (we rarely have low dews here).

    I'm confused, what do you avoid with oil? Do you avoid products with oil bc the oil in the products prevents the product from absorbing? Or do you avoid sealing? And how can you tell when a product absorbs? You don't feel any residue and your hair feels moisturized? I'm sorry for all the questions, I've never had healthy natural hair so I don't know what to look for. In the past I either used products that were full of cones or mineral oil, or I was frying it with the flat iron lol.
    -Mostly 3C with some 4A.
    -Currently APL.
    -Shorterm Goal: BSL by end of the year.
    -Longterm Goal: WL in 2 years.
    -Medium/coarse hair, Low Porosity, Low-Elasticity, Medium Density.

    Rotation:

    Co-wash: Suave Naturals Cond. (any)
    Rinse Out: Tresemee Naturals Moisture
    DC: GVP Cond. Balm, SM DC, & EVOO
    Leave in: SM Conditioning Milk
    Sealant: EVOO Or Whipped Shea
    Gel: SM Curl Souffle

    Afro-Latinas...visit my blog!:

    http://afrolatinaisbeautiful.blogspot.com/
  • EllyEllyOxenFreeEllyEllyOxenFree Posts: 6,446Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    m_cruz2007 wrote: »
    ellepixie wrote: »
    m_cruz2007 wrote: »
    I'm so excited to see that we have a section for us! :) Most of my hair problems have been attributed to my low-porosity! Anyways I just had a few questions that are confusing the heck out of me. I'd appreciate it if someone could help me!

    Are humectants ok to use for our type? How about in low or high dew points? Or is that just dependent on the individual? I see some people with low porosity say that they can't use them, and some say they love them.

    Are oils a problem for our hair type and why or why not? Again, I see some people with low porosity that say they can't use it, while some say they can. Is that something else that just depends on the person? I was sealing with EVOO but I skipped it yesterday and for some reason my hair felt a lot softer.

    - I only have issues with glycerin in low or high dews, so it really depends on your hair. My hair loves honey in all dews.

    - I don't like oils on wet hair because they don't really absorb. I only use them if my LI doesn't have enough slip on its own and has a lot of water. But oil based products usually do not absorb into my hair when it's wet. It's terrible. Castor oil on wet hair - hard crunchy hair.
    Oh okay, so I'll have to just to observe my hair in high dews to see how it goes (we rarely have low dews here).

    I'm confused, what do you avoid with oil? Do you avoid products with oil bc the oil in the products prevents the product from absorbing? Or do you avoid sealing? And how can you tell when a product absorbs? You don't feel any residue and your hair feels moisturized? I'm sorry for all the questions, I've never had healthy natural hair so I don't know what to look for. In the past I either used products that were full of cones or mineral oil, or I was frying it with the flat iron lol.

    For instance, Qhemet Amla and Olive Heavy Cream has oil as the first ingredient, not water. I still use products that contain oil as long as the first ingredient is water or aloe vera juice. When a product does not absorb, my hair is white or I can see beads of the product on my hair - like with oils - I can SEE beads of oil on my hair strand.
    BC'ed: 26 Dec 09
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  • AfroPRChicaAfroPRChica Posts: 200Registered Users
    ellepixie wrote: »
    m_cruz2007 wrote: »
    ellepixie wrote: »

    - I only have issues with glycerin in low or high dews, so it really depends on your hair. My hair loves honey in all dews.

    - I don't like oils on wet hair because they don't really absorb. I only use them if my LI doesn't have enough slip on its own and has a lot of water. But oil based products usually do not absorb into my hair when it's wet. It's terrible. Castor oil on wet hair - hard crunchy hair.
    Oh okay, so I'll have to just to observe my hair in high dews to see how it goes (we rarely have low dews here).

    I'm confused, what do you avoid with oil? Do you avoid products with oil bc the oil in the products prevents the product from absorbing? Or do you avoid sealing? And how can you tell when a product absorbs? You don't feel any residue and your hair feels moisturized? I'm sorry for all the questions, I've never had healthy natural hair so I don't know what to look for. In the past I either used products that were full of cones or mineral oil, or I was frying it with the flat iron lol.

    For instance, Qhemet Amla and Olive Heavy Cream has oil as the first ingredient, not water. I still use products that contain oil as long as the first ingredient is water or aloe vera juice. When a product does not absorb, my hair is white or I can see beads of the product on my hair - like with oils - I can SEE beads of oil on my hair strand.
    Oh okay. I don't see many products with oil as the first ingredient. My hair never gets white or beads up (well i've never looked that closely), but I have to REALLY work product into my hair and my strands did not sink at all in the test. So I am going to assume that you do not seal. lol.
    -Mostly 3C with some 4A.
    -Currently APL.
    -Shorterm Goal: BSL by end of the year.
    -Longterm Goal: WL in 2 years.
    -Medium/coarse hair, Low Porosity, Low-Elasticity, Medium Density.

    Rotation:

    Co-wash: Suave Naturals Cond. (any)
    Rinse Out: Tresemee Naturals Moisture
    DC: GVP Cond. Balm, SM DC, & EVOO
    Leave in: SM Conditioning Milk
    Sealant: EVOO Or Whipped Shea
    Gel: SM Curl Souffle

    Afro-Latinas...visit my blog!:

    http://afrolatinaisbeautiful.blogspot.com/
  • AfroPRChicaAfroPRChica Posts: 200Registered Users
    ellepixie wrote: »
    m_cruz2007 wrote: »
    ellepixie wrote: »

    - I only have issues with glycerin in low or high dews, so it really depends on your hair. My hair loves honey in all dews.

    - I don't like oils on wet hair because they don't really absorb. I only use them if my LI doesn't have enough slip on its own and has a lot of water. But oil based products usually do not absorb into my hair when it's wet. It's terrible. Castor oil on wet hair - hard crunchy hair.
    Oh okay, so I'll have to just to observe my hair in high dews to see how it goes (we rarely have low dews here).

    I'm confused, what do you avoid with oil? Do you avoid products with oil bc the oil in the products prevents the product from absorbing? Or do you avoid sealing? And how can you tell when a product absorbs? You don't feel any residue and your hair feels moisturized? I'm sorry for all the questions, I've never had healthy natural hair so I don't know what to look for. In the past I either used products that were full of cones or mineral oil, or I was frying it with the flat iron lol.

    For instance, Qhemet Amla and Olive Heavy Cream has oil as the first ingredient, not water. I still use products that contain oil as long as the first ingredient is water or aloe vera juice. When a product does not absorb, my hair is white or I can see beads of the product on my hair - like with oils - I can SEE beads of oil on my hair strand.
    Sorry I have another question. When you say your hair looks white, do you mean wet or dry? Sometimes when I apply products to wet hair my hair is somewhat white, but it goes away when it dries.
    -Mostly 3C with some 4A.
    -Currently APL.
    -Shorterm Goal: BSL by end of the year.
    -Longterm Goal: WL in 2 years.
    -Medium/coarse hair, Low Porosity, Low-Elasticity, Medium Density.

    Rotation:

    Co-wash: Suave Naturals Cond. (any)
    Rinse Out: Tresemee Naturals Moisture
    DC: GVP Cond. Balm, SM DC, & EVOO
    Leave in: SM Conditioning Milk
    Sealant: EVOO Or Whipped Shea
    Gel: SM Curl Souffle

    Afro-Latinas...visit my blog!:

    http://afrolatinaisbeautiful.blogspot.com/
  • EllyEllyOxenFreeEllyEllyOxenFree Posts: 6,446Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    m_cruz2007 wrote: »
    ellepixie wrote: »
    m_cruz2007 wrote: »
    Oh okay, so I'll have to just to observe my hair in high dews to see how it goes (we rarely have low dews here).

    I'm confused, what do you avoid with oil? Do you avoid products with oil bc the oil in the products prevents the product from absorbing? Or do you avoid sealing? And how can you tell when a product absorbs? You don't feel any residue and your hair feels moisturized? I'm sorry for all the questions, I've never had healthy natural hair so I don't know what to look for. In the past I either used products that were full of cones or mineral oil, or I was frying it with the flat iron lol.

    For instance, Qhemet Amla and Olive Heavy Cream has oil as the first ingredient, not water. I still use products that contain oil as long as the first ingredient is water or aloe vera juice. When a product does not absorb, my hair is white or I can see beads of the product on my hair - like with oils - I can SEE beads of oil on my hair strand.
    Sorry I have another question. When you say your hair looks white, do you mean wet or dry? Sometimes when I apply products to wet hair my hair is somewhat white, but it goes away when it dries.
    Wet. But the problem is if the product has too much oil my hair will NOT dry. When I used the AOHC on wet hair, my hair was wet and white for over 12 hours (I slept with it in my hair, then let it try to dry all day while I was working from home). I eventually had to wash it out.

    And I can see the beads on my hair from pretty far away. When I used refresher sprays that aren't clear and have oil on my hair I see the beads on my strands too, and they won't saturate my hair at all.

    Naw, lol, I don't seal unless it's at night on dry hair (AOHC, because it's moisturizing and has water too) and only on my ends.

    I will say though, my hair has gotten better about absorbing products since I started using my steamer. :)
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  • teejayteejay Posts: 537Registered Users
    I have noticed a difference since I have been using my heating cap. I have read that a steamer is far better. Unfortunately, that is not in my budget at the time. I may have to try another technique with the steam.

    @ellepixie: How do you use honey? In your conditioner, LI, or styler?
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    BC 11/23/2008
    Low porosity, Fine/Medium Texture, S-Curls

    Co-wash: VO5 Tea Therapy
    Rinse Out: Garnier Sleek 'n Shine (subject to change)
    Styler: Long Aid Curl Activator

    Dislikes: Proteins (except occasional Silk protein), Cones, Oils
  • belwillcoilybelwillcoily Posts: 303Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    m_cruz2007 wrote: »
    I'm so excited to see that we have a section for us! :) Most of my hair problems have been attributed to my low-porosity! Anyways I just had a few questions that are confusing the heck out of me. I'd appreciate it if someone could help me!

    Are humectants ok to use for our type? How about in low or high dew points? Or is that just dependent on the individual? I see some people with low porosity say that they can't use them, and some say they love them. My hair can deal with humectants in any dew point as long it is an ingredient in the conditioner that I'm using and it's not too high on the ingredient list. I can use a straight up water and vegetable glycerin spritz in the summer time (when it's warm/hot outside) with no problem.

    Are oils a problem for our hair type and why or why not? Again, I see some people with low porosity that say they can't use it, while some say they can. Is that something else that just depends on the person? I was sealing with EVOO but I skipped it yesterday and for some reason my hair felt a lot softer. I do a prepoo every week with two penetrating oils (avocado and EVOO) and I use my heat cap to open up the hair shaft so the oil will absorb. I put non-penetrating oils into my DT/PT conditioner (jojoba and castor) to give it extra slip because my hair tangles very easily and the more slip the better in terms of detangling. I also add non-penetrating oils (again jojoba and castor) to my LI. I spritz nightly with distilled water and I seal the ends with a tiny amount of a mix of jojoba, castor and shea butter. My entire head is sealed with a little bit of jojoba and castor oil. During the winter months, I don't spritz in the morning. I only need very, very light amounts of the oil/shea to seal. When I wake up in the morning and go about my day, the moisture I applied to it the night before stays in place until I spritz it again that night.

    I don't think it's as simple as making a blanket statement that low porosity hair can use this product or cannot use this product with success, I think it's more a matter of being diligent with finding the amount of product that works in your hair whether low porosity or not. You have to kind of play around with it and of course, occassionally you will find products that just aren't going to work for your hair no matter what you do to it. You know? HTH! ;-)
    :afro: Me Fascina El Pelo :afro:




    Low Porosity; Medium Strands; Dense
  • EllyEllyOxenFreeEllyEllyOxenFree Posts: 6,446Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    teejay wrote: »
    I have noticed a difference since I have been using my heating cap. I have read that a steamer is far better. Unfortunately, that is not in my budget at the time. I may have to try another technique with the steam.

    @ellepixie: How do you use honey? In your conditioner, LI, or styler?

    It's in a number of my conditioners, leave-ins, and stylers. When I am using straight honey, I use it as a DC mixed with olive oil.
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  • RacerWife7RacerWife7 Posts: 895Registered Users Curl Novice
    Forgive me, for I didn't read through this entire thread. But, I know that my own low porosity hair can't take oils. But, it's because my hair is fine more than anything else. Porosity doesn't play into that, really. Fine hair is more easily weighed down - low porosity or not.

    Maybe the key for you is to know what your hair type is first. In other words, all three: porosity, coarseness, and elasticity.

    And dew points (I saw them mentioned earlier in this post) do factor in. My hair reacts completely different in high dew points than it does now with extremely low dews.
    Janet ~ Northern NJ
    Properties: Dense, Fine, Low Porosity, Low Elasticity
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    What I used in this photo:
    Cleansing: Suave Tropical Coconut Condish
    Conditioner: CJ Smoothing Condish
    Styling: CJCQ
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  • AfroPRChicaAfroPRChica Posts: 200Registered Users
    ellepixie wrote: »
    m_cruz2007 wrote: »
    ellepixie wrote: »

    For instance, Qhemet Amla and Olive Heavy Cream has oil as the first ingredient, not water. I still use products that contain oil as long as the first ingredient is water or aloe vera juice. When a product does not absorb, my hair is white or I can see beads of the product on my hair - like with oils - I can SEE beads of oil on my hair strand.
    Sorry I have another question. When you say your hair looks white, do you mean wet or dry? Sometimes when I apply products to wet hair my hair is somewhat white, but it goes away when it dries.
    Wet. But the problem is if the product has too much oil my hair will NOT dry. When I used the AOHC on wet hair, my hair was wet and white for over 12 hours (I slept with it in my hair, then let it try to dry all day while I was working from home). I eventually had to wash it out.

    And I can see the beads on my hair from pretty far away. When I used refresher sprays that aren't clear and have oil on my hair I see the beads on my strands too, and they won't saturate my hair at all.

    Naw, lol, I don't seal unless it's at night on dry hair (AOHC, because it's moisturizing and has water too) and only on my ends.

    I will say though, my hair has gotten better about absorbing products since I started using my steamer. :)
    Sorry for the late response. Wow, my hair doesn't do any of that. If I use oil it does take like 2 extra hours to dry. I am starting to question if I am truly low porosity. I did the strand test again on several strands of hair and some floated, and some strands half the strands went under water and the other half stayed up. I have no idea what that means, I think I might be low/normal porosity. My hair doesn't bead up like that, but there are some spots that don't like to absorb products no matter how much I wet it! I can put globs of products on those spots and they will still look dry.
    -Mostly 3C with some 4A.
    -Currently APL.
    -Shorterm Goal: BSL by end of the year.
    -Longterm Goal: WL in 2 years.
    -Medium/coarse hair, Low Porosity, Low-Elasticity, Medium Density.

    Rotation:

    Co-wash: Suave Naturals Cond. (any)
    Rinse Out: Tresemee Naturals Moisture
    DC: GVP Cond. Balm, SM DC, & EVOO
    Leave in: SM Conditioning Milk
    Sealant: EVOO Or Whipped Shea
    Gel: SM Curl Souffle

    Afro-Latinas...visit my blog!:

    http://afrolatinaisbeautiful.blogspot.com/
  • AfroPRChicaAfroPRChica Posts: 200Registered Users
    m_cruz2007 wrote: »
    I'm so excited to see that we have a section for us! :) Most of my hair problems have been attributed to my low-porosity! Anyways I just had a few questions that are confusing the heck out of me. I'd appreciate it if someone could help me!

    Are humectants ok to use for our type? How about in low or high dew points? Or is that just dependent on the individual? I see some people with low porosity say that they can't use them, and some say they love them. My hair can deal with humectants in any dew point as long it is an ingredient in the conditioner that I'm using and it's not too high on the ingredient list. I can use a straight up water and vegetable glycerin spritz in the summer time (when it's warm/hot outside) with no problem.

    Are oils a problem for our hair type and why or why not? Again, I see some people with low porosity that say they can't use it, while some say they can. Is that something else that just depends on the person? I was sealing with EVOO but I skipped it yesterday and for some reason my hair felt a lot softer. I do a prepoo every week with two penetrating oils (avocado and EVOO) and I use my heat cap to open up the hair shaft so the oil will absorb. I put non-penetrating oils into my DT/PT conditioner (jojoba and castor) to give it extra slip because my hair tangles very easily and the more slip the better in terms of detangling. I also add non-penetrating oils (again jojoba and castor) to my LI. I spritz nightly with distilled water and I seal the ends with a tiny amount of a mix of jojoba, castor and shea butter. My entire head is sealed with a little bit of jojoba and castor oil. During the winter months, I don't spritz in the morning. I only need very, very light amounts of the oil/shea to seal. When I wake up in the morning and go about my day, the moisture I applied to it the night before stays in place until I spritz it again that night.

    I don't think it's as simple as making a blanket statement that low porosity hair can use this product or cannot use this product with success, I think it's more a matter of being diligent with finding the amount of product that works in your hair whether low porosity or not. You have to kind of play around with it and of course, occassionally you will find products that just aren't going to work for your hair no matter what you do to it. You know? HTH! ;-)
    Okay that answered my questions. I was unsure of if these things are a low porosity thing, or if they are related to each individual. Just like high porosity hair needs protein and would benefit from sealing, I was unsure if there was anything special we have to do to our type of hair.
    -Mostly 3C with some 4A.
    -Currently APL.
    -Shorterm Goal: BSL by end of the year.
    -Longterm Goal: WL in 2 years.
    -Medium/coarse hair, Low Porosity, Low-Elasticity, Medium Density.

    Rotation:

    Co-wash: Suave Naturals Cond. (any)
    Rinse Out: Tresemee Naturals Moisture
    DC: GVP Cond. Balm, SM DC, & EVOO
    Leave in: SM Conditioning Milk
    Sealant: EVOO Or Whipped Shea
    Gel: SM Curl Souffle

    Afro-Latinas...visit my blog!:

    http://afrolatinaisbeautiful.blogspot.com/
  • AfroPRChicaAfroPRChica Posts: 200Registered Users
    RacerWife7 wrote: »
    Forgive me, for I didn't read through this entire thread. But, I know that my own low porosity hair can't take oils. But, it's because my hair is fine more than anything else. Porosity doesn't play into that, really. Fine hair is more easily weighed down - low porosity or not.

    Maybe the key for you is to know what your hair type is first. In other words, all three: porosity, coarseness, and elasticity.

    And dew points (I saw them mentioned earlier in this post) do factor in. My hair reacts completely different in high dew points than it does now with extremely low dews.
    Oh okay, thanks for your input! There are also a lot of people with coarse low porosity hair that say they can't use oils. I'll just have to test it out on myself! Sorry I have no idea how to quote multiple people lol.
    -Mostly 3C with some 4A.
    -Currently APL.
    -Shorterm Goal: BSL by end of the year.
    -Longterm Goal: WL in 2 years.
    -Medium/coarse hair, Low Porosity, Low-Elasticity, Medium Density.

    Rotation:

    Co-wash: Suave Naturals Cond. (any)
    Rinse Out: Tresemee Naturals Moisture
    DC: GVP Cond. Balm, SM DC, & EVOO
    Leave in: SM Conditioning Milk
    Sealant: EVOO Or Whipped Shea
    Gel: SM Curl Souffle

    Afro-Latinas...visit my blog!:

    http://afrolatinaisbeautiful.blogspot.com/
  • waviewavie Posts: 237Registered Users
    Hope it's ok to ask a question of my own on here...

    I'm at a loss as to what to do with my extremely low porosity hair. I have really nice waves for about a day but that's just about as long as they'll last. My waves are really "fragile" - meaning, they unclump and poof out, losing definition pretty quickly after that. I've tried using gel (Bioterra) but it tends to just sit on my hair.

    And I would wash everyday...but if I'm airdrying it takes well over a day to dry, so that's just not feasible.

    Is there anything else I should try?

    TIA
    Hair type: 2C-3A, very dry, extremely low porosity, med elasticity, insanely thick kinky-wavy.
    HGs: Trader Joe's Nourish spa conditioner, Epsom salt rinse, Joico K-pak conditioner
  • Robin-in-FLRobin-in-FL Posts: 1,731Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    wavie wrote: »
    Hope it's ok to ask a question of my own on here...

    I'm at a loss as to what to do with my extremely low porosity hair. I have really nice waves for about a day but that's just about as long as they'll last. My waves are really "fragile" - meaning, they unclump and poof out, losing definition pretty quickly after that. I've tried using gel (Bioterra) but it tends to just sit on my hair.

    And I would wash everyday...but if I'm airdrying it takes well over a day to dry, so that's just not feasible.

    Is there anything else I should try?

    TIA

    You might want to make another thread. But I don't think you'll get everything to hang together for over a day without using styling products like gel, that seems like expecting too much... If you are wavy, without enough moisture and some gel the waves don't usually stay together very well and if it's very thick yeah you will get poof as it comes apart and grows during the day.

    To get the gel to soak in - I use the Arc Angel, it's got a lot of water so that helps; and put it on Very Very Wet hair, squeezing the gel in while squeezing the water out, then scrunch the hair up in a t-shirt, trying again to squeeze out as much water as possible; this also helps to 'set' the curl, get it to look about the same wet as it's going to when it dries (instead of combing it down and letting it shrink up as it dries) which seems to help a lot with the frizz.

    Once the hair is dryer, no it won't absorb, you are right, the gel will just sit on top of your hair if it's low-po. It has to sort of be carried in by the water.
    2c / C / iii (FIA)
    Med-Coarse, LowPorosity, NormalElast (LCLF)

    Shoulder-Length now.

    Wash: DevaCare Low Poo
    Detangle & Rinseout: Walgreens or Sally's Conditioning Balm (always)
    Leave-in: DevaCare OneC (budget choice is GFTN)
    Style: ReCoil & DevaCare Arc Angel (budget choices are HESMU or Got2BSpikedUp)

    Henna!
  • evelynnalfredevelynnalfred Posts: 324Registered Users
    Is this thread for all low porosity questions?

    What is the best way to moisturize low porosity hair? My scalp gets itchy quick. I use leave-in conditioners, daily moisturizers, and I even oil my scalp, but still the itch. What's crazy about it, is that my hair feels moisturized.

    I can't figure it out.
  • juanabjuanab Posts: 4,037Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Is this thread for all low porosity questions?

    What is the best way to moisturize low porosity hair? My scalp gets itchy quick. I use leave-in conditioners, daily moisturizers, and I even oil my scalp, but still the itch. What's crazy about it, is that my hair feels moisturized.

    I can't figure it out.

    What are you using to oil your scalp? I had been having the same problem, but I started oiling my scalp with a mixture of tea tree oil. peppermint oil. rosemary oil, lavender oil with jojoba oil. Also I have been spritzing my hair with a mixture of jojoba oil, aloe Vera juice, Jane Carter leave in conditioner, and Rosewater. I seal with coconut oil. This routine is working for me as I no longer have a itchy scalp. I oil my scalp 3 times a week, spritz and seal every day.

    texture - medium/fine, porosity - low/normal, elasticity - normal
    co-wash - NaturelleGrow Coconut Water or Marshmallow Root, Slippery Elm Bark & Blue Malva Cleansing Conditioners
    LI - KCKT mixed w/ SM C & H Curl & Style Milk
    DC - NG Mango & Coconut H2O or Chamomile/Brdck Root
    Gel - SM souffle (winter), KCCC (summer) or CR Naturals Aloe Whipped Butter Gel (year round)
    Sealers - Virgin Coconut Oil, Avocado butter, Aloe butter
    Ayurvedic treatments - Jamila Henna, Sukesh, Aloe Vera Powder, Hibiscus Powder
    .


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  • evelynnalfredevelynnalfred Posts: 324Registered Users
    juanab wrote: »
    Is this thread for all low porosity questions?

    What is the best way to moisturize low porosity hair? My scalp gets itchy quick. I use leave-in conditioners, daily moisturizers, and I even oil my scalp, but still the itch. What's crazy about it, is that my hair feels moisturized.

    I can't figure it out.

    What are you using to oil your scalp? I had been having the same problem, but I started oiling my scalp with a mixture of tea tree oil. peppermint oil. rosemary oil, lavender oil with jojoba oil. Also I have been spritzing my hair with a mixture of jojoba oil, aloe Vera juice, Jane Carter leave in conditioner, and Rosewater. I seal with coconut oil. This routine is working for me as I no longer have a itchy scalp. I oil my scalp 3 times a week, spritz and seal every day.

    The oil I have is from Carol's Daughter. Soybean oil is the first ingredient, but there's peppermint in there and several others, no coconut oil though.

    When you use your spritz, do you spray it directly on your scalp?
  • juanabjuanab Posts: 4,037Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    juanab wrote: »
    Is this thread for all low porosity questions?

    What is the best way to moisturize low porosity hair? My scalp gets itchy quick. I use leave-in conditioners, daily moisturizers, and I even oil my scalp, but still the itch. What's crazy about it, is that my hair feels moisturized.

    I can't figure it out.

    What are you using to oil your scalp? I had been having the same problem, but I started oiling my scalp with a mixture of tea tree oil. peppermint oil. rosemary oil, lavender oil with jojoba oil. Also I have been spritzing my hair with a mixture of jojoba oil, aloe Vera juice, Jane Carter leave in conditioner, and Rosewater. I seal with coconut oil. This routine is working for me as I no longer have a itchy scalp. I oil my scalp 3 times a week, spritz and seal every day.

    The oil I have is from Carol's Daughter. Soybean oil is the first ingredient, but there's peppermint in there and several others, no coconut oil though.

    When you use your spritz, do you spray it directly on your scalp?

    I spritz my hair and scalp. You can get coconut oil from any health food store. It is very inexpensive.

    texture - medium/fine, porosity - low/normal, elasticity - normal
    co-wash - NaturelleGrow Coconut Water or Marshmallow Root, Slippery Elm Bark & Blue Malva Cleansing Conditioners
    LI - KCKT mixed w/ SM C & H Curl & Style Milk
    DC - NG Mango & Coconut H2O or Chamomile/Brdck Root
    Gel - SM souffle (winter), KCCC (summer) or CR Naturals Aloe Whipped Butter Gel (year round)
    Sealers - Virgin Coconut Oil, Avocado butter, Aloe butter
    Ayurvedic treatments - Jamila Henna, Sukesh, Aloe Vera Powder, Hibiscus Powder
    .


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  • evelynnalfredevelynnalfred Posts: 324Registered Users
    juanab wrote: »
    juanab wrote: »

    What are you using to oil your scalp? I had been having the same problem, but I started oiling my scalp with a mixture of tea tree oil. peppermint oil. rosemary oil, lavender oil with jojoba oil. Also I have been spritzing my hair with a mixture of jojoba oil, aloe Vera juice, Jane Carter leave in conditioner, and Rosewater. I seal with coconut oil. This routine is working for me as I no longer have a itchy scalp. I oil my scalp 3 times a week, spritz and seal every day.

    The oil I have is from Carol's Daughter. Soybean oil is the first ingredient, but there's peppermint in there and several others, no coconut oil though.

    When you use your spritz, do you spray it directly on your scalp?

    I spritz my hair and scalp. You can get coconut oil from any health food store. It is very inexpensive.

    Another spritz question: Do you spritz while your hair is twisted or while it's free? Do you experience frizz?
  • juanabjuanab Posts: 4,037Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    juanab wrote: »

    The oil I have is from Carol's Daughter. Soybean oil is the first ingredient, but there's peppermint in there and several others, no coconut oil though.

    When you use your spritz, do you spray it directly on your scalp?

    I spritz my hair and scalp. You can get coconut oil from any health food store. It is very inexpensive.

    Another spritz question: Do you spritz while your hair is twisted or while it's free? Do you experience frizz?

    Initially I spritz right after I wash or co-wash, oil my scalp, put in my leave in, then seal with coconut oil. I then do whatever styling I choose.

    texture - medium/fine, porosity - low/normal, elasticity - normal
    co-wash - NaturelleGrow Coconut Water or Marshmallow Root, Slippery Elm Bark & Blue Malva Cleansing Conditioners
    LI - KCKT mixed w/ SM C & H Curl & Style Milk
    DC - NG Mango & Coconut H2O or Chamomile/Brdck Root
    Gel - SM souffle (winter), KCCC (summer) or CR Naturals Aloe Whipped Butter Gel (year round)
    Sealers - Virgin Coconut Oil, Avocado butter, Aloe butter
    Ayurvedic treatments - Jamila Henna, Sukesh, Aloe Vera Powder, Hibiscus Powder
    .


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  • applesandafrosapplesandafros Posts: 328Registered Users
    My hair does not seem to get moisturized. I moisturize everyday and at first my hair will be moisturized but then after a week- week and a half my hair is dry and the stuff that was working at first doesn't work so well.
    I shampoo once a week but I'm thinking it still might be build up. My question is what do you think the problem is and if it's build up what can I do t o prevent build up?
    Almost MBL Coils
    spongy, low porosity, dense awesomeness

    Shampoo: Curly Kinks Cleansing Cream
    Rinse Out/Detangler Conditioner: Aussie Moist, V05 Strawberries and Cream, Suave Naturals Coconut
    Leave in Conditioner: Trader Joe's Nourish Spa and Giovanni Direct Leave in
    Styler: Eco Styler Krystal and Blue, Herbal Essence Totally Twisted Gel and Flax seed gel
    Sealer: Grape seed oil
    Deep Conditioner: Curl Junkie Repair Me
    Protein Treatment: Karishma and Jamilla Henna
  • Morgan_AdcockMorgan_Adcock Posts: 2,573Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    That would be the silicone in the Suave Professionals Almond Shea Butter Conditioner.
    Peace,
    Morgan

    Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
    CGing since July 2008

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