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Kimmaytube hair growth, pH balance and protective styling

adst2nvadst2nv Posts: 215Registered Users
Hey ladies! I've been doing some thinking. I like Kimmaytube. I'm not trying to knock her videos since I find them very informative. And her hair is simply beautiful. But..I have seen other naturals with just as much hair or longer, who probably could care less about the pH of any product they use on their hair.

Which brings me to this question: Do you all think hair growth is due to certain products, pH balancing, protective styling or genetics?

I guess I'm just at the point where I'm tired of listening and following bandwagons that are kinda high maintanence, when simplicity is key. Ladies, what are your thoughts?
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  • jr.mint12jr.mint12 Posts: 101Registered Users
    i think she is does the things that work for her hair and what she knows to work for her.
  • CerendipityCerendipity Posts: 5,091Registered Users
    I havent followed her hair growth at all so I couldnt say.

    PS works for some and for some loose hair works. I think the key for a lot of people is a routine. Once you get a routine down pat , hair care becomes very easy.
  • jgnellejgnelle Posts: 21Registered Users
    i think its a mixture of all those things. i dont think using only one particular "trend" will yield results - its all about balance and what your hair needs and that's whats been working for me.
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  • FronomenalFronomenal Posts: 712Registered Users
    Hair grows because you are alive. No product--pH balanced or not--makes hair grow or ensures length retention. Product matters with respect to length retention but only in the sense that it facilitate good haircare techniques. Retaining the maximum amount of length is mostly due to technique. In my opinion, low manipulation and protective styling are the key to retaining length.
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  • makeupvixenmakeupvixen Posts: 507Registered Users
    I can't say because I haven't reall put it to the test. But I have now starting testing my butters and leave ins to find out the ph balance rate of it and including it in my YT videos I do. I think some people do want to know but for some it doesn't matter. For me I just can't say because I use so much stuff depending on the ingredients and not the ph levels
  • IndeedIndeed Posts: 72Registered Users
    I don't think PH really matters too much unless you're putting baking soda/vinegar on your hair everyday. According to her, castile soap isn't good to wash your hair with, but it's the only thing that cleanses my hair without making it feel gummy. I'm not about to stop washing my hair with it just because she advised against it.

    I think everyone should do what works for them. While I think there should be some basic guidelines to hair health (such as not flat ironing your hair everyday), going super deep into the chemistry of everything is a bit unnecessary. Interesting, yes, at the end of the day, it's hair. It's dead cells. It's just hair.

    As for what I think makes hair grow longer, genetics and products may play a role, but ultimately, it's up to what you DO with it. While quality products are important, no conditioner or shampoo in the world is going to save your hair from constant heat, chemicals, and being ripped out by a comb. I completely agree with fronomenal.

    On a side note, kimmay just kind of rubs me the wrong way. While she does offer good advice, she comes off as a bit pretentious to me. Also, I thought it was humorous how she was trying to give advice on getting a husband past 30 when she doesn't even have a man herself...

    But anyway, I'm probably just being a hater, so I'll just shut up now. =)
  • adst2nvadst2nv Posts: 215Registered Users
    Indeed wrote: »
    I don't think PH really matters too much unless you're putting baking soda/vinegar on your hair everyday. According to her, castile soap isn't good to wash your hair with, but it's the only thing that cleanses my hair without making it feel gummy. I'm not about to stop washing my hair with it just because she advised against it.

    I think everyone should do what works for them. While I think there should be some basic guidelines to hair health (such as not flat ironing your hair everyday), going super deep into the chemistry of everything is a bit unnecessary. Interesting, yes, at the end of the day, it's hair. It's dead cells. It's just hair.

    As for what I think makes hair grow longer, genetics and products may play a role, but ultimately, it's up to what you DO with it. While quality products are important, no conditioner or shampoo in the world is going to save your hair from constant heat, chemicals, and being ripped out by a comb. I completely agree with fronomenal.

    On a side note, kimmay just kind of rubs me the wrong way. While she does offer good advice, she comes off as a bit pretentious to me. Also, I thought it was humorous how she was trying to give advice on getting a husband past 30 when she doesn't even have a man herself...

    But anyway, I'm probably just being a hater, so I'll just shut up now. =)

    Hi Ladies! I totally agree with the above comments. @Indeed: She's married to a guy named Kevin. He has actually been in a couple of her earlier videos.

    The reason I started this was because I was marveling at her hair growth. I've watched her progress over the last year, and I started thinking: maybe if I checked the pH of my products, or maybe if I use what she uses, or (fill in the blank) my hair will grow like that too! Then I stepped back into reality.

    For me: I don't moisturize like I should, I use a sulfate shampoo at times..and the list goes on and on. Yet my hair grows fine and retains length. I do notice though that, even when I was relaxed, the key to me retaining mad length was low manipulative styles- rods, straw curls, braids, etc. I have never tested the pH of any product, I didn't care if it was 'all natural' or not as long as it worked, so on and so on. While I appreciate these YouTube gurus, I just kinda have to do what works for me. Trying to keep up with someones bandwagon and their progress will drive me insane!!
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  • afrosheenqueenafrosheenqueen Posts: 5,400Registered Users
    Fronomenal wrote: »
    Hair grows because you are alive. No product--pH balanced or not--makes hair grow or ensures length retention. Product matters with respect to length retention but only in the sense that it facilitate good haircare techniques. Retaining the maximum amount of length is mostly due to technique. In my opinion, low manipulation and protective styling are the key to retaining length.

    +1

    Kimmay routine is very simple to me; she's in twists most of the time and is very gentle to her hair ( I can't get with the 8 hour detangling session tho'. Give me a friggin' break.) She incorporated PH testing to find products that work for her instead of becoming a PJ.
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  • afrosheenqueenafrosheenqueen Posts: 5,400Registered Users
    Indeed wrote: »
    On a side note, kimmay just kind of rubs me the wrong way. While she does offer good advice, she comes off as a bit pretentious to me. Also, I thought it was humorous how she was trying to give advice on getting a husband past 30 when she doesn't even have a man herself...

    But anyway, I'm probably just being a hater, so I'll just shut up now. =)

    She's married.
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  • dearheart15dearheart15 Posts: 177Registered Users
    I think finding and maintaining a consistent regimen has worked best for me in retaining length. Hair is going to grow all on its on. I don't mind kimmay's videos, but as others mentioned, she does what works best for her hair. Once you find out what works for you, the process becomes a lot easier and less time consuming IMO.
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  • ShellyeShellye Posts: 74Registered Users
    I agree with Fronomenal - your hair is going to grow regardless of pH of products or protective styling. (Genetics and overall health may be the only things actually regulating growth.) Retaining length is a whole other can of worms though.

    I also think if you read blogs and watch YouTube videos you see rapid growth before you eyes. You see before and after pictures and you can't help but ask what you're doing wrong - but you missed that the before picture was 4 years ago.

    I still haven't mastered having healthy ends (without trimming) like I'd like. It's probably over manipulation on my part that causes breakage. I just watched a Kimmaytube video today and she says she gets little to no breakage. As a 4b, I'm always suspicious of kinky-curly girls who claim to not have any breakage. I can't even fathom it.
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  • IndeedIndeed Posts: 72Registered Users
    adst2nv wrote: »

    @Indeed: She's married to a guy named Kevin. He has actually been in a couple of her earlier videos.
    She's married.

    She is? I could've sworn that in her old advice video, she said she wasn't. Well, I stand corrected and feel silly for mentioning that now.
    Shellye wrote: »
    I still haven't mastered having healthy ends (without trimming) like I'd like. It's probably over manipulation on my part that causes breakage. I just watched a Kimmaytube video today and she says she gets little to no breakage. As a 4b, I'm always suspicious of kinky-curly girls who claim to not have any breakage. I can't even fathom it.

    That's where I have most of my trouble, too. Doesn't matter how much I baby the tips- they always get tangled or full of single strand knots. It's hard for me to imagine that some people never have breakage as well, but I'd believe it. They're lucky.
  • curliefrocurliefro Posts: 45Registered Users
    I think Kimmaytube and others overtime have gotten to know their hair (porosity, hair thickness etc) and figure out what works for them (i.e. key to length retention). I think once that occurs, it becomes an easy routine as others have stated.
    I don't knock Kimmaytube because her hair results speak loudly (and I've adopted some of her methods which work for retention)
  • NinjaretteNinjarette Posts: 3,982Registered Users
    adst2nv wrote: »
    Which brings me to this question: Do you all think hair growth is due to certain products, pH balancing, protective styling or genetics?

    I guess I'm just at the point where I'm tired of listening and following bandwagons that are kinda high maintanence, when simplicity is key. Ladies, what are your thoughts?

    I've never concerned myself with "pH balancing". Hair growth has a lot to do with genetics. My hair grows, it always has. I don't take hair vitamins (because I never noticed a significant difference when I tried them), and I don't always eat right. I have never noticed hair loss, or slow growth, because of my diet.

    I think many natural haircare regimens are very complicated and I think that contributes to failure. It's why so many women try to go natural, over and over, and fail. They make it way too hard. You don't need Monistat to grow your hair. Seriously.

    I :love4: lots of products, but my regimen is VERY simple. I think if more women would leave their hair alone (especially with tighter, more fragile hair textures), and stop trying to "do" so much to it, they'd experience the growth they desire. Now, that's just my opinion. I'm not trying to tell anybody how and what to do.

    But if I did most of the stuff I read about, I'd be tired and sick of it all. I went natural to simplify. I did all that stuff when I was relaxed, cuz I had to try and keep the hair on my head.

    I enjoy YouTube videos, for the sheer entertainment factor. I don't get any of my haircare tips from watching them, because by the time I discovered YouTube naturals, I was well into my natural hair journey.
    I havent followed her hair growth at all so I couldnt say.

    PS works for some and for some loose hair works. I think the key for a lot of people is a routine. Once you get a routine down pat , hair care becomes very easy.

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  • adst2nvadst2nv Posts: 215Registered Users
    Nea wrote: »
    adst2nv wrote: »
    Which brings me to this question: Do you all think hair growth is due to certain products, pH balancing, protective styling or genetics?

    I guess I'm just at the point where I'm tired of listening and following bandwagons that are kinda high maintanence, when simplicity is key. Ladies, what are your thoughts?

    I've never concerned myself with "pH balancing". Hair growth has a lot to do with genetics. My hair grows, it always has. I don't take hair vitamins (because I never noticed a significant difference when I tried them), and I don't always eat right. I have never noticed hair loss, or slow growth, because of my diet.

    I think many natural haircare regimens are very complicated and I think that contributes to failure. It's why so many women try to go natural, over and over, and fail. They make it way too hard. You don't need Monistat to grow your hair. Seriously.



    I :love4: lots of products, but my regimen is VERY simple. I think if more women would leave their hair alone (especially with tighter, more fragile hair textures), and stop trying to "do" so much to it, they'd experience the growth they desire. Now, that's just my opinion. I'm not trying to tell anybody how and what to do.

    But if I did most of the stuff I read about, I'd be tired and sick of it all. I went natural to simplify. I did all that stuff when I was relaxed, cuz I had to try and keep the hair on my head


    I enjoy YouTube videos, for the sheer entertainment factor. I don't get any of my haircare tips from watching them, because by the time I discovered YouTube naturals, I was well into my natural hair journey.

    I havent followed her hair growth at all so I couldnt say.

    PS works for some and for some loose hair works. I think the key for a lot of people is a routine. Once you get a routine down pat , hair care becomes very easy.

    No greater truth (regarding natural haircare) has ever been spoken.

    AMEN! I totally agree! Like I said, simplicity is key. That, and plain old common sense, lol!
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  • kaycookkaycook Posts: 40Registered Users
    adst2nv wrote: »
    Hey ladies! I've been doing some thinking. I like Kimmaytube. I'm not trying to knock her videos since I find them very informative. And her hair is simply beautiful. But..I have seen other naturals with just as much hair or longer, who probably could care less about the pH of any product they use on their hair.

    Which brings me to this question: Do you all think hair growth is due to certain products, pH balancing, protective styling or genetics?

    I guess I'm just at the point where I'm tired of listening and following bandwagons that are kinda high maintanence, when simplicity is key. Ladies, what are your thoughts?

    Those of us who are churchgoers are familiar with the expression "I need to give you an offering!"

    I so agree with you - you could not have put it better: the videos and such got me through my transition but now that I know what works I refuse to spend hours on my hair....I just don't have the time.

    I certainly respect kimmay and others who have provided such wonderful support for new and experienced naturals but as long as you don't terrorize your hair - it will grow.

    There are 4 products in my routine and I couldn't be happier :)
  • adst2nvadst2nv Posts: 215Registered Users
    kaycook wrote: »
    adst2nv wrote: »
    Hey ladies! I've been doing some thinking. I like Kimmaytube. I'm not trying to knock her videos since I find them very informative. And her hair is simply beautiful. But..I have seen other naturals with just as much hair or longer, who probably could care less about the pH of any product they use on their hair.

    Which brings me to this question: Do you all think hair growth is due to certain products, pH balancing, protective styling or genetics?

    I guess I'm just at the point where I'm tired of listening and following bandwagons that are kinda high maintanence, when simplicity is key. Ladies, what are your thoughts?

    Those of us who are churchgoers are familiar with the expression "I need to give you an offering!"

    I so agree with you - you could not have put it better: the videos and such got me through my transition but now that I know what works I refuse to spend hours on my hair....I just don't have the time.

    I certainly respect kimmay and others who have provided such wonderful support for new and experienced naturals but as long as you don't terrorize your hair - it will grow.

    There are 4 products in my routine and I couldn't be happier :)

    And your hair looks beautiful! I just kinda feel like, while the videos are very informative on Youtube, I think some of us naturals have an unhealthy obsession with our hair, its texture and its length. Don't get me wrong, Its so refreshing to see so many of us embracing our natural textures, but all this hair typing, pH balancing, no-pooing stuff can be a little mind blowing and intimidating, especially to newbies like myself. I don't think its meant to be that way, but I've seen some people get discouraged by all of the blogs and videos out there. I've just learned that simplicity is what works for me and once I figured that my hair was just hair and wouldn't look like this person's, or that person's, I was much happier with it.
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  • WhodunitWhodunit Posts: 4Registered Users
    I think as long as you keep you hair healthy and moisturized, it will grow BUT I'm not overly concerned about growing hair down to my waist though, so you can take my opinion as you will. :smile:

    I love having natural hair because I think it's FUN! Watching the youtube videos about retaining length makes being natural seem more like work and dull as hell. Case in point: in a recent video of kimmaytube's she noted that it takes her 6 to 8 hours to detangle/shampoo/condition her hair, yet in a previous video she said something about she wears protective styles where her hair is hidden and tucked away like over 90% of the time... That sounds so unrewarding. :-( :sad1:

    I would rather just make sure my hair is healthy AND if I'm going to do an extended detangling/shampoo session - best believe I'm going to flaunt my kinks and coils for all their worth! ;-)
  • adst2nvadst2nv Posts: 215Registered Users
    Whodunit wrote: »
    I think as long as you keep you hair healthy and moisturized, it will grow BUT I'm not overly concerned about growing hair down to my waist though, so you can take my opinion as you will. :smile:

    I love having natural hair because I think it's FUN! Watching the youtube videos about retaining length makes being natural seem more like work and dull as hell. Case in point: in a recent video of kimmaytube's she noted that it takes her 6 to 8 hours to detangle/shampoo/condition her hair, yet in a previous video she said something about she wears protective styles where her hair is hidden and tucked away like over 90% of the time... That sounds so unrewarding. :-( :sad1:

    I would rather just make sure my hair is healthy AND if I'm going to do an extended detangling/shampoo session - best believe I'm going to flaunt my kinks and coils for all their worth! ;-)

    I totally agree! I also remember in one of her videos she said she wasn't interested in flat ironing her hair, because she didn't want heat damage. Now she's saying she's going o flat iron it later this month. Go figure.

    I agree with you about natural hair being fun. I don't want to wear my hair up 90% just to let it retain length. I'm not 5 anymore where Mama kept my hair braided and only let it 'out' on Sunday or special event days. I don't have time to spend washing/detangling my hair for 6 hours. So if enjoying my hair means it doesn't grow BSL or WL then so be it. Chances are it may not grow to that length anyway. And even if it does, my mom always warned me about putting anything before God. I love my hair for what it is, but I don't put it before God, my family or anything else. Those 6 or 7 hours I was detangling my hair, I couldve been doing volunteer work or feeding the homeless, or attending church service. To each his/her own, but to me, its just not that serious.

    That's what makes the world so beautiful though- the ability to do as you please.
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  • kaycookkaycook Posts: 40Registered Users
    I think as long as you keep you hair healthy and moisturized, it will grow BUT I'm not overly concerned about growing hair down to my waist though, so you can take my opinion as you will. :smile:

    I love having natural hair because I think it's FUN! Watching the youtube videos about retaining length makes being natural seem more like work and dull as hell. Case in point: in a recent video of kimmaytube's she noted that it takes her 6 to 8 hours to detangle/shampoo/condition her hair, yet in a previous video she said something about she wears protective styles where her hair is hidden and tucked away like over 90% of the time... That sounds so unrewarding. :-( :sad1:

    I would rather just make sure my hair is healthy AND if I'm going to do an extended detangling/shampoo session - best believe I'm going to flaunt my kinks and coils for all their worth! ;-)[/QUOTE]

    I totally agree! I also remember in one of her videos she said she wasn't interested in flat ironing her hair, because she didn't want heat damage. Now she's saying she's going o flat iron it later this month. Go figure.

    I agree with you about natural hair being fun. I don't want to wear my hair up 90% just to let it retain length. I'm not 5 anymore where Mama kept my hair braided and only let it 'out' on Sunday or special event days. I don't have time to spend washing/detangling my hair for 6 hours. So if enjoying my hair means it doesn't grow BSL or WL then so be it. Chances are it may not grow to that length anyway. And even if it does, my mom always warned me about putting anything before God. I love my hair for what it is, but I don't put it before God, my family or anything else. Those 6 or 7 hours I was detangling my hair, I couldve been doing volunteer work or feeding the homeless, or attending church service. To each his/her own, but to me, its just not that serious.

    Seriously, I REALLY need to give you that offering! Yes and Amen!!!! :)


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  • bdtaylorbdtaylor Posts: 16Registered Users
    Whodunit wrote: »
    I think as long as you keep you hair healthy and moisturized, it will grow BUT I'm not overly concerned about growing hair down to my waist though, so you can take my opinion as you will. :smile:

    I love having natural hair because I think it's FUN! Watching the youtube videos about retaining length makes being natural seem more like work and dull as hell. Case in point: in a recent video of kimmaytube's she noted that it takes her 6 to 8 hours to detangle/shampoo/condition her hair, yet in a previous video she said something about she wears protective styles where her hair is hidden and tucked away like over 90% of the time... That sounds so unrewarding. :-( :sad1:

    I would rather just make sure my hair is healthy AND if I'm going to do an extended detangling/shampoo session - best believe I'm going to flaunt my kinks and coils for all their worth! ;-)

    I could not agree with this more. I always wondered what is the point to trying to retain long hair if you have to constantly wear protective styles to achieve it. I do protective style sometime, but not because I want to retain length it is usually because I just don't feel like dealing with my hair for a few days. I have found that when I just do my regular routine and not really worried about retainage etc is when my hair does the best.
  • NickalNackNickalNack Posts: 29Registered Users
    Whodunit wrote: »
    Ishe wears protective styles where her hair is hidden and tucked away like over 90% of the time... That sounds so unrewarding. :-( :sad1:

    Honestly, for me... I never really liked doing my hair to begin with, so now that I've incorporated twists into my un-routine as opposed to just leaving it out and going days+ without combing, conditioning, or even moisturizing, I'll gladly go with the alternative of wearing it up in protective styles all the time. :D That way I don't have to think about it!

    Of course... my ultimate goal is to get my hair to my tailbone. I'm sure it has a lot to do with that as well. Since I'm only around arm pit at this point, I still have a ways to go. Of course I'm not obsessively paranoid about it, but I want to actually experience what it's like to have long hair and have it be mine, even if it takes a few years to get there as opposed to 45 minutes.

    I always hated getting my hair cut, and I've always hated having to fuss over my hair (I watch Kimmaytube sometimes as well but I didn't know she spent 8 hours detangling her hair! That seems like a bit much. 8|), so for me it's sort of a win-win. :D
  • violetmauvevioletmauve Posts: 177Registered Users
    I like protective styling because I'm the type of person who doesn't like to deal with my hair (despite being hair obsessed. I know what a contradiction ). I like to keep things fairly simple. I'm not a big fan of twists because mine never really look right. I really like to wear buns and other up dos. I figured out my hair routine and it doesn't take longer than an hour to detangle depending how I wear my hair. When I wear out styles like a fro at the end of week I end up detangling for longer. Every hair is different I guess. I have 4a/4b thick, coarse hair and around midback. I can't even see myself detangling for a couple of hours.
  • AlikaIssaAlikaIssa Banned Posts: 339Banned Users
    adst2nv wrote: »
    Hey ladies! I've been doing some thinking. I like Kimmaytube. I'm not trying to knock her videos since I find them very informative. And her hair is simply beautiful. But..I have seen other naturals with just as much hair or longer, who probably could care less about the pH of any product they use on their hair.

    Which brings me to this question: Do you all think hair growth is due to certain products, pH balancing, protective styling or genetics?

    I guess I'm just at the point where I'm tired of listening and following bandwagons that are kinda high maintanence, when simplicity is key. Ladies, what are your thoughts?


    I believe that protective styling is the key to retaining length - particularly for 4b hair - and moisturising the hair helps to keep it healthy (and thus prevent breakage).

    The majority of conditioners on the market are acidic and are formulated to close the cuticle so I do not think that people should spend too much time worrying about the pH balance of products that they purchase.

    The importance of pH comes into play when people are making homemade leave-ins and conditioners. In those cases the final products should be tested to ensure that they are acidic (4.5-5.5 is ideal)
  • JC's MorenaBronxMamiJC's MorenaBronxMami Posts: 80Registered Users
    As a 4b, I'm always suspicious of kinky-curly girls who claim to not have any breakage. I can't even fathom it.[/quote]

    I was too. But, after taking bits and pieces of hair care advice from her - keeping my hair moisturized and wearing low manipulation styles (for me currently, that's "Celie braids" under a wig), I've noticed that I've had virtually no breakage, and am actually retaining growth. And I have very thick bushy hair of different textures.
    I STILL LOVE my steamer! :toothy4:[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    :D Keeping it simple...
  • FronomenalFronomenal Posts: 712Registered Users
    I like protective styling because I'm the type of person who doesn't like to deal with my hair (despite being hair obsessed. I know what a contradiction ). I like to keep things fairly simple. I'm not a big fan of twists because mine never really look right. I really like to wear buns and other up dos. I figured out my hair routine and it doesn't take longer than an hour to detangle depending how I wear my hair. When I wear out styles like a fro at the end of week I end up detangling for longer. Every hair is different I guess. I have 4a/4b thick, coarse hair and around midback. I can't even see myself detangling for a couple of hours.

    Wow! We must be hair twins because I've experienced the same things with regards to haircare--except my hair is only sholder length.

    I'm glad it doesn't take you hours to detangle. It takes me such a 20-30 mins now. I don't know what I'd do if it got to be too long...
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  • itsKelCeeEeeitsKelCeeEee Posts: 1,084Registered Users
    Uhm, I just detangle my hair in the shower with lots of conditioner. Do some baggying. That sort of thing. But I don't ever detangle my hair other than that.

    Then again, I also wash/detangle my hair every other day, so it's not that bad. Also, my hair's only a little past neck length when stretched, so I guess it would be harder for those at BSL or whatever.

    Still though, I know a lot of people are all about protective styles, but really all I need is a good leave in conditioner and I'm usually alright. I suck at protective styles. If I knew how to cornrow I'd hook my hair UP. Haha.
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  • FourBeeBeeFourBeeBee Posts: 5Registered Users
    adst2nv wrote: »
    Which brings me to this question: Do you all think hair growth is due to certain products, pH balancing, protective styling or genetics?

    I guess I'm just at the point where I'm tired of listening and following bandwagons that are kinda high maintanence, when simplicity is key. Ladies, what are your thoughts?

    I am totally with u on the simplicity thing. I use two products: pink oil and hair mayonnaise. Honestly, I've watched the youtube videos on 4b hair (including kimmaytube), and I've visited a lot of sites, but at the end of the day, I don't have the patience. I have type 4b hair, one year natural, with 4.7 inches of hair. I comb my hair every 4 days.. And no breakage, besides the normal 50-100 strands. Considering everyone's hair grows at least 1 cm every month regardless of hair type, not bad.. Especially since I'm newly natural and relaxer-free..

    Wet-condition-comb-twist-sit for 30 mins-rinse-grease-twist-untwist-wrap and repeat (every 4 days). That's my regimen lol. :0)
  • vain???janevain???jane Posts: 197Registered Users
    i think its mainly due to genetics, sometimes coupled with basic hair care. ♥
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