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I'm blaming everything on perimenopause...

2poodles2poodles Registered Users Posts: 2,485 Curl Connoisseur
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...hot flashes, night sweats, insomnia, moodiness, red burning eyes.... and anything else that annoys me!

I really wish I knew how long this was all going to last. It'd be easier to pace myself if there were a known end point. I had a hysterectomy (but kept my ovaries) 11 years ago at age 37, so I don't even have my periods to go by. What a total nuisance.

Guys have it so much easier. Not fair. :sad8:
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  • curlypearlcurlypearl Registered Users Posts: 12,231 Curl Connoisseur
    2poodles wrote: »
    ...hot flashes, night sweats, insomnia, moodiness, red burning eyes.... and anything else that annoys me!

    I really wish I knew how long this was all going to last. It'd be easier to pace myself if there were a known end point. I had a hysterectomy (but kept my ovaries) 11 years ago at age 37, so I don't even have my periods to go by. What a total nuisance.

    Guys have it so much easier. Not fair. :sad8:
    +1 to the bolded. So true in so many ways! I'd check out the red burning eyes or try Systane drops and eye ointment. Use just a tiny bit of the eye ointment at night. It's the best. Your eyes are probably dry and that makes your peepers moist again and clear again. GL!
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  • 2poodles2poodles Registered Users Posts: 2,485 Curl Connoisseur
    Thanks for the suggestion, curlypearl. I'll look into the eye ointment. I've been blaming the red burning eyes on lack of sleep, but an ointment/drops are certainly worth a try!!

    And I forgot about the hormonal acne - what a huge drag!!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]2Poodles :flower: Southeast PA
    fine, med porosity, normal elasticity
    Currently using the following 2 - 3 x/week:
    Living Proof Perfect Hair Day suphate-free Poo, cone-free CO and styling treatment, plus KCCC

  • LotsawavesLotsawaves Scottsdale, AZRegistered Users Posts: 9,777 Curl Virtuoso
    I had my uterus removed when I was 27, so I understand how confusing it is when you don't have a period to go by. At 50 I had all the symptoms you are having. It was terrible, especially the hot flashes. I had a 20 minute drive to work and would get 4 while driving. They would also make me a little light headed. I don't have them that often now. I'm 59. If I drink coffee or alcohol I may get one, but it isn't too bad. I still have the insomnia at times, but that's getting better too. I find that if I'm having trouble sleeping taking a Xanax tablet helps.

    It does get better, but it is hard to go thru. I think it's also important that your family and friends understand what you are going thru. You will need their support and understanding. You may have mood swings that can confuse them.

    (((HUGS))) and know you can come here for support or if you just want to complain. WE understand.

    ETA: I've just recently started having the eye redness. It's worse in the mornings. CP, what eye ointment do you use. I was using an eye gel at night, but it didn't help. I've also tried Visine, but no results with that either. I'd really like to find something that works, becuz it's embarrassing.
    From Michael Berg:

    Every person has a unique connection to the Creator that can never be extinguished, and every person has a great soul that can manifest important things in our world. To make a person feel less than they are because of something inside themselves, be it faith, race, or sexual orientation, is the greatest sin of all."
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Registered Users Posts: 31,259 Curl Connoisseur
    Lotsawaves wrote: »
    ETA: I've just recently started having the eye redness. It's worse in the mornings. CP, what eye ointment do you use. I was using an eye gel at night, but it didn't help. I've also tried Visine, but no results with that either. I'd really like to find something that works, becuz it's embarrassing.



    The eye redness is probably from the Latisse you are using. I have that too. A little of the long-acting Visine works great to make them not red.
  • SuburbanbushbabeSuburbanbushbabe MassachusettsRegistered Users Posts: 15,402 Curl Neophyte
    My perimenopause lasted for more than 7 years. I kicked the night sweats, forgetfulness, hot flashes, zero sex drive and waking up 3x a night to the curb with bio-identical hormones (which I still take). It was such a blessing to sleep through the night again.
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  • 2poodles2poodles Registered Users Posts: 2,485 Curl Connoisseur
    My sister-in-law just told me about Midnight - some sort of herbal, all natural sleep aid that's supposed to be effective yet not make you feel drowsy in the morning. I picked up a package at Walgreens. Has anyone tried it? They're basically 1.5 mg of melatonin and some additional lemon balm, chamomile and lavender.

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    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]2Poodles :flower: Southeast PA
    fine, med porosity, normal elasticity
    Currently using the following 2 - 3 x/week:
    Living Proof Perfect Hair Day suphate-free Poo, cone-free CO and styling treatment, plus KCCC

  • xcptnlxcptnl Central MassachusettsRegistered Users Posts: 15,678 Curl Connoisseur
    I had no idea the red burning eyes was a symptom of perimenopause. I get to add that to my list now!! :sad:
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    One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

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  • 2poodles2poodles Registered Users Posts: 2,485 Curl Connoisseur
    Haha - I don't know if the red burning eyes is a true symptom of Peri or not - but, like I said, I'm blaming everything on it! Sorry you've got them, too. I'm seeing the eye doctor in another week or so. I'll be asking what he recommends and I'll pass on anything I learn....
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]2Poodles :flower: Southeast PA
    fine, med porosity, normal elasticity
    Currently using the following 2 - 3 x/week:
    Living Proof Perfect Hair Day suphate-free Poo, cone-free CO and styling treatment, plus KCCC

  • xcptnlxcptnl Central MassachusettsRegistered Users Posts: 15,678 Curl Connoisseur
    We might as well add to the list-it is such a long list it will not even be noticed. My sis had a hysterectomy when she was in mid 20s so has no idea where she is either. I am kinda in the same shoes since I am still taking birth control. I had to ask the stupidest question ever if I would still continue to have periods if still on the pill. RCW let me know that I would so I am not really sure where I am in this journey either. I am not sure if I have enough energy to make an appt to find out what I should be doing if anything. That is another symptom-apathy.:icon_smile:
    Central Massachusetts

    One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

    In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
  • LotsawavesLotsawaves Scottsdale, AZRegistered Users Posts: 9,777 Curl Virtuoso
    2poodles wrote: »
    My sister-in-law just told me about Midnight - some sort of herbal, all natural sleep aid that's supposed to be effective yet not make you feel drowsy in the morning. I picked up a package at Walgreens. Has anyone tried it? They're basically 1.5 mg of melatonin and some additional lemon balm, chamomile and lavender.

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    I tried it and it did nothing. I wouldn't waste your money on it.
    From Michael Berg:

    Every person has a unique connection to the Creator that can never be extinguished, and every person has a great soul that can manifest important things in our world. To make a person feel less than they are because of something inside themselves, be it faith, race, or sexual orientation, is the greatest sin of all."
  • LotsawavesLotsawaves Scottsdale, AZRegistered Users Posts: 9,777 Curl Virtuoso
    RedCatWaves wrote: »
    Lotsawaves wrote: »
    ETA: I've just recently started having the eye redness. It's worse in the mornings. CP, what eye ointment do you use. I was using an eye gel at night, but it didn't help. I've also tried Visine, but no results with that either. I'd really like to find something that works, becuz it's embarrassing.



    The eye redness is probably from the Latisse you are using. I have that too. A little of the long-acting Visine works great to make them not red.

    I was getting the eye redness before I started the Latisse, so it's not that. I'll try the long-acting Visine. Thx.
    From Michael Berg:

    Every person has a unique connection to the Creator that can never be extinguished, and every person has a great soul that can manifest important things in our world. To make a person feel less than they are because of something inside themselves, be it faith, race, or sexual orientation, is the greatest sin of all."
  • LotsawavesLotsawaves Scottsdale, AZRegistered Users Posts: 9,777 Curl Virtuoso
    xcptnl wrote: »
    We might as well add to the list-it is such a long list it will not even be noticed. My sis had a hysterectomy when she was in mid 20s so has no idea where she is either. I am kinda in the same shoes since I am still taking birth control. I had to ask the stupidest question ever if I would still continue to have periods if still on the pill. RCW let me know that I would so I am not really sure where I am in this journey either. I am not sure if I have enough energy to make an appt to find out what I should be doing if anything. That is another symptom-apathy.:icon_smile:

    I hear you on the energy. When my friends call and want to make plans in the future, I tell them I will let them know that day. Not sure if I'll have the energy to do it. I got some iron pills and hope they will work. I think the energy thing also affects my sex drive. You know you have to have some energy to have sex. I think mine is still there, becuz of a dream I had recently. I really want to continue that dream. :headbang:
    From Michael Berg:

    Every person has a unique connection to the Creator that can never be extinguished, and every person has a great soul that can manifest important things in our world. To make a person feel less than they are because of something inside themselves, be it faith, race, or sexual orientation, is the greatest sin of all."
  • ShrekLoverShrekLover Registered Users Posts: 2,551 Curl Neophyte
    I'm another one who had her uterus removed but not the ovaries. I was having minor hot flashes (but still annoying), not sleeping through the night, vaginal dryness, lack of desire, etc.

    Since I started on 2 products recommended in my libido thread I have been doing much better. Rarely get a hot flash now, (remember mine weren't really bad though), almost never need lubricant for sex, and am having more desire and orgasms.

    What I started using was the maca magic capsules (I take 2 a day and I think that is the minimum recommended), and the vaginal cream (prescription), that curlypearl recommended. I also have more energy which I attribute directly to the maca. I did an experiment where I stopped them for a month to check and it made a huge difference. (hatingmyhair recommended the maca)

    For sleeping I have been using Unisom for about 7 years. I added L-theanine for relaxation with it about 2 years ago. Those usually work. However, on the Unisom I had to start out with a quarter of a tablet because any more than that and I was hungover the next day. Now I have to take a full tablet for it to be effective, but to me it is worth it.
  • LotsawavesLotsawaves Scottsdale, AZRegistered Users Posts: 9,777 Curl Virtuoso
    I may try the maca magic pills. I'll let you know if I feel it's working. I would love more energy.
    From Michael Berg:

    Every person has a unique connection to the Creator that can never be extinguished, and every person has a great soul that can manifest important things in our world. To make a person feel less than they are because of something inside themselves, be it faith, race, or sexual orientation, is the greatest sin of all."
  • rouquinnerouquinne Registered Users Posts: 13,737 Curl Connoisseur
    2 endometrial ablations here, so also no periods to go by. last night i woke up 3 times with hot flashes. the night before 4 or 5...

    1.5 mg of melatonin??? i take 9 mg when i really need to sleep, but i have such vivid dreams with it, i don't know if it helps that much.
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  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Registered Users, Curl Ambassador Posts: 20,731 Curl Virtuoso
    I WISH I could blame things on meno/perimeno but my body seems in no rush to start any of that. I'm pretty flippin sick of having periods every 2-3 weeks.
    So I just blame everything on men. : )
    --I'm located in Western PA.   --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, joined the forums in May 2005, started going grey in late 2005.   --My hair is 3B with some 3A, currently at mid back length when dry,  texture-medium/fine, porosity-top is low, middle is medium, ends are porous, elasticity-normal.   --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, coconut oil, honey, vinegar.   
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  • curlypearlcurlypearl Registered Users Posts: 12,231 Curl Connoisseur
    Just another comment on the red burning eyes. I've had that but it wasn't due to perimenopause. If the drops and nighttime eye ointment don't help, you need to see an ophthalmologist, although a regular doctor (internist or family doctor) could help also. I had to use a drug called Restasis - you may have seen it advertised on TV.
    It relieves dry eyes. One drop twice a day - it stings a little but after a while my eyes when back to being clear and not burning so I didn't have to use it anymore.

    Good luck with all your symptoms! Let us know how it's going.
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    Highly porous. Color over grey.
    I love all the Curl Junkie products. Still experimenting with gels and curl creams. Still hoping for 2nd day hair....
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  • rudeechickrudeechick East Coast/USARegistered Users Posts: 6,726
    Well I am reading this because I CANNOT SLEEP.

    After 2 years of irregular periods and night sweats I went symptom ADN PERIOD free for 7 months. I thought I was home free. The 2 months ago I got a period (well more of a semi colon but....) Since then....

    Had my first night sweat again 2 nights ago. And am all broken out. Am losing handfuls of hair....

    PS. I gained 10 lbs the past year - after being the same weight my entire adult life.

    ARE WE HAVING FUN YET?? Am seriously considering HRT... I read that if you start it prior to 50 and stay on it less than 5 years the risk are minimal and can even be beneficial....
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  • xcptnlxcptnl Central MassachusettsRegistered Users Posts: 15,678 Curl Connoisseur
    rudee I was trying to block the weight thing out of head! :help:
    Central Massachusetts

    One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

    In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
  • Robin-in-FLRobin-in-FL Registered Users Posts: 1,731 Curl Neophyte
    jeepcurlygurl wrote: »
    I WISH I could blame things on meno/perimeno but my body seems in no rush to start any of that. I'm pretty flippin sick of having periods every 2-3 weeks.
    So I just blame everything on men. : )

    Right there with you. I read recently that periods are most regular AND close together in 40s because your body is trying to get pregnant before it closes shop (paraphrasing, obviously). So it wants to ovulate more often. I have been in this 23 day cycle which is basically bleed-for-a-week then off for two weeks, then bleed for a week....

    But actually, I was blaming it on perimenopause, LOL. No kidding. Because I think this IS one of the changes related to the end of the cycles, using up all the eggs at the end or something. Which yes I understand can go on for like fifteen years, but still...
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  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Registered Users Posts: 31,259 Curl Connoisseur
    rudeechick wrote: »
    Well I am reading this because I CANNOT SLEEP.

    After 2 years of irregular periods and night sweats I went symptom ADN PERIOD free for 7 months. I thought I was home free. The 2 months ago I got a period (well more of a semi colon but....) Since then....

    Had my first night sweat again 2 nights ago. And am all broken out. Am losing handfuls of hair....

    PS. I gained 10 lbs the past year - after being the same weight my entire adult life.

    ARE WE HAVING FUN YET?? Am seriously considering HRT... I read that if you start it prior to 50 and stay on it less than 5 years the risk are minimal and can even be beneficial....


    On the bright side, Rudee, your hair is looking really fabulous!
  • RedCatWavesRedCatWaves Registered Users Posts: 31,259 Curl Connoisseur
    I get occasional hot flashes, my sleep is interrupted sometimes, and my periods have become like business taxes...something I only get quarterly. I'm really trying not to let menopause turn me into a cranky old lady. I refuse to complain, blame, or, most especially, I refuse to moan and sigh (god, I can't stand all the old ladies at the gym who moan and grunt and sigh all the time). These things are minor nuisances, nothing more. I'm aging...there's nothing I can do about it...but it sure beats the alternative. My best friend didn't live to see menopause, so I'm going to do my best to live life for both of us. I intend to really enjoy living...until I die.
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Registered Users, Curl Ambassador Posts: 20,731 Curl Virtuoso
    Robin-in-FL wrote: »
    jeepcurlygurl wrote: »
    I WISH I could blame things on meno/perimeno but my body seems in no rush to start any of that. I'm pretty flippin sick of having periods every 2-3 weeks.
    So I just blame everything on men. : )

    Right there with you. I read recently that periods are most regular AND close together in 40s because your body is trying to get pregnant before it closes shop (paraphrasing, obviously). So it wants to ovulate more often. I have been in this 23 day cycle which is basically bleed-for-a-week then off for two weeks, then bleed for a week....

    Yep, I'm on the same cycle you are. Fun stuff. I'll be one of those old ladies in her 70's who gets pregnant. And then I'll shoot myself. : )
    --I'm located in Western PA.   --I found NC in late 2004, CG since February 2005, joined the forums in May 2005, started going grey in late 2005.   --My hair is 3B with some 3A, currently at mid back length when dry,  texture-medium/fine, porosity-top is low, middle is medium, ends are porous, elasticity-normal.   --My long time favorite products are Suave & VO5 conditioners, LA Looks Sport Gel, coconut oil, honey, vinegar.   
    --My CG and grey hair progress -  
    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/going-gray/179328-jeepys-grey-hair-progress.html   
    --My article at NaturallyCurly about going grey - 
    https://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/color/how-i-went-completely-gray-and-loved-it
  • rudeechickrudeechick East Coast/USARegistered Users Posts: 6,726
    xcptnl wrote: »
    rudee I was trying to block the weight thing out of head! :help:

    Sorry.... I cant look at myself:(
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  • xcptnlxcptnl Central MassachusettsRegistered Users Posts: 15,678 Curl Connoisseur
    RedCatWaves wrote: »
    I get occasional hot flashes, my sleep is interrupted sometimes, and my periods have become like business taxes...something I only get quarterly. I'm really trying not to let menopause turn me into a cranky old lady. I refuse to complain, blame, or, most especially, I refuse to moan and sigh (god, I can't stand all the old ladies at the gym who moan and grunt and sigh all the time). These things are minor nuisances, nothing more. I'm aging...there's nothing I can do about it...but it sure beats the alternative. My best friend didn't live to see menopause, so I'm going to do my best to live life for both of us. I intend to really enjoy living...until I die.

    I have done all my 'whining' in the 40 thread and some on the non-hair but in 'real' life I do not go into it. My friend-that is all she talks about-hot flashes, etc, what her doctor thinks, what she is going to try, etc etc etc.

    I think your mind set is the perfect one and what a great tribute to your friend.
    Central Massachusetts

    One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

    In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
  • curlypearlcurlypearl Registered Users Posts: 12,231 Curl Connoisseur
    RedCatWaves wrote: »
    Lotsawaves wrote: »
    ETA: I've just recently started having the eye redness. It's worse in the mornings. CP, what eye ointment do you use. I was using an eye gel at night, but it didn't help. I've also tried Visine, but no results with that either. I'd really like to find something that works, becuz it's embarrassing.



    The eye redness is probably from the Latisse you are using. I have that too. A little of the long-acting Visine works great to make them not red.

    Responding to the bolded - what eye ointment I use, I use Systane eye ointment at night and Refresh Optive for Sensitive eye drops during the day. The drops are individual and don't therefore contain preservatives which can be irritating.

    Both of these were recommended by my ophthalmologist and received excellent ratings on the web. I had tried eye drop brands before - not as good although the Bausch and Lomb eye ointment was also as good as the Systane. You may need to try various brands to see which is best for you.

    When my eyes were first very bad I used Restasis which is a prescription drop. I only needed it for about a month then switched to the Systane ointment and Refresh eye drops. Don't ignore red eyes - they are caused by dry eyes and you can end up with a permanent problem. It's not a joke.

    Good luck everyone!
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    Highly porous. Color over grey.
    I love all the Curl Junkie products. Still experimenting with gels and curl creams. Still hoping for 2nd day hair....
    Every day is a gift :flower:
  • curlypearlcurlypearl Registered Users Posts: 12,231 Curl Connoisseur
    Ladies - it gets better! I gained weight, had trouble sleeping etc. Now I'm 65, weigh only 6 lbs more than before meno, no hot flashes or sweats, lots of energy, clear skin, bright eyes - :blob:

    Of course I had a brain tumor - but it was unrelated. I feel great - you will too! Hang in there....:love5:
    2/c Coarse hair med. density.
    Highly porous. Color over grey.
    I love all the Curl Junkie products. Still experimenting with gels and curl creams. Still hoping for 2nd day hair....
    Every day is a gift :flower:
  • rudeechickrudeechick East Coast/USARegistered Users Posts: 6,726
    curlypearl wrote: »
    Ladies - it gets better! I gained weight, had trouble sleeping etc. Now I'm 65, weigh only 6 lbs more than before meno, no hot flashes or sweats, lots of energy, clear skin, bright eyes - :blob:

    Of course I had a brain tumor - but it was unrelated. I feel great - you will too! Hang in there....:love5:

    Pearl you are a gem:)
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  • StarmieStarmie Registered Users Posts: 7,170 Curl Virtuoso
    I'm hoping I can start blaming things on peri/menopause. I started a period yesterday only two weeks after the last one which is a bit of a worry for someone who has always been as regular as clockwork, not to say inconvenient. Am off to the doc on Thursday as I've other stuff going on atm too and I'm mightily sick of myself and my hopeless body. I just want to be where Curlypearl is
    3b in South Australia.
  • OnduleeOndulee Registered Users Posts: 1,306 Curl Connoisseur
    by Ann Louise Gittleman

    I just put a hold on this book at my library. I'm coming up to 42 and I've had some strange things going on for some months now. I hope I get some insight and practical advice going into p-meno. I think the second edition is the one to look for.

    reviews on Amazon: tons of positive reviews

    http://www.amazon.com/Before-Change-Taking-Charge-Perimenopause/product-reviews/0060560878/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
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