Did I go a little overboard with the moisture, or do I still have dry hair?

I'm a little confused. My hair used to be very oily because I washed it often and didn't condition enough. It started over-producing oil, and only after I tried to cut back on shampoo and condition a lot more did it start to get a lot better. I still use sulfates (I have to use up a HUGE bottle of Nexxus shampoo, and then I'm hoping to go CG), but I condition my hair before I shampoo, wash my hair, and then condition well again. To me, my hair feels dirty -- like it needs a good wash -- if I go two days without shampooing it or even just water-washing (which always makes my hair feel WONDERFUL!) Lately my hair just feels like it gets oily quickly like before, and I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. It was feeling really nice with the extra moisture I was feeding it. Do you think it's still over-producing oil and not hydrated enough, am I going through a mini "transition period" and my hair needs time to get used to the extra hydration, or do you think I'm moisturizing too much? My hair feels extra-itchy lately, even right after I wash it, which never usually happens. I also get these tiny random white flakes (there aren't very many of them at all and they are pretty few and far between) when I haven't washed my hair in a while, but I read this interesting thread that makes me think it isn't dandruff or that my scalp isn't clean, but that I have a dry scalp. I've never had to deal with this sort of thing -- I guess I ignored it unintentionally. If it is a dry scalp, can you point me in the right direction? If not, do you have any suggestions? TIA -- I appreciate any advice you have for me! :toothy8:
Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

Favorite...
Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
Mod-CG since 12/1/10! :happy7:

Comments

  • MountaincurlMountaincurl Posts: 571Registered Users
    does your shampoo have cones?
    Wyoming, mod CG since 08/2010
    2cFii (fia), normal/normal, bleached, loves protein.
    Seborrheic dermatitis diagnosed 02/2016
  • oddityofwingsoddityofwings Posts: 1,261Registered Users
    What conditioner are you using currently? Cones wouldn't be a problem, but things like lanolin, petrolatum, mineral oil, or excessive amounts of quats could be.

    FYI sulfate shampoos actually make pretty good body washes, so you don't HAVE to use them for your hair. Coney conditioners are good as shaving lotion as well. :-)
    3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

    Favourites:love5::
    CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

    American literature PhD student in the UK... :study:
  • justajesuschickjustajesuschick Curl Neophyte Posts: 1,657Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Hi!! Well, here are the Aussie ingredients:
    Water, Ammonium Laureth Sulfate, Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate, Sodium Chloride, Glycol Distearate, Cocamide MEA, Dimethicone, Fragrance, Cetyl Alcohol, Sodium Citrate, Sodium Benzoate, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Disodium EDTA, Hydrogenated Polydecene, Citric Acid, Trimethylolpropane Tricaprylate/Tricaprate, Psidium Guajava Fruit Extract, Citrus Glauca Fruit (Australian Desert Lime) Extract, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, Ammonium Xylenesulfonate.


    The ingredients for the HETT are:
    Water, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Sodium Chloride, Lavandula Angustifolia (Lavender) Flower/Leaf Stem Extract, Jade Plant (Crassula Argentea) Extract, Fragrance, Cocamide MEA, Sodium Benzoate, Tetrasodium EDTA, Citric Acid, Sodium Citrate, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Linoleamidopropyl PG-Dimonium Chloride Phosphate, Propylene Glycol, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, Sodium Xylenesulfonate, Ext Violet 2.

    The ingredients that I underlined are things that I would not use on my hair.
    Do you have any CG lowpoo that you could use? I did not see what conditioners you are using but if they are full of silicones, I'd say that could narrow down your issue. It becomes a cycle, really.
    I'm 47. Straight hair until 6/2010. THANKS, thyroid!
    2b, medium-fine, normal-low porosity, medium density and elasticity
    CG since 7/1/2010

    Cleanse: Abba Color Protect
    Condition: DevaCurl OC
    LI: CJ-Deep Fix, Beauticurls LI
    Curl Enhancer: CHS Curl Keeper, KCCC
    Gel: Alba Strong Hold Gel, BRHG, Hugo Naturals Gel, SS FHG, CJPP
    Trying/Maybe: Ecostyler, CJRM
  • wavynwild16wavynwild16 Posts: 2,121Registered Users
    What conditioner are you using currently? Cones wouldn't be a problem, but things like lanolin, petrolatum, mineral oil, or excessive amounts of quats could be.

    FYI sulfate shampoos actually make pretty good body washes, so you don't HAVE to use them for your hair. Coney conditioners are good as shaving lotion as well. :-)

    I have it in my signature -- I was using Aussie Cleanse & Mend conditioner (which I absolutely LOVED!), but unfortunately I ran out, so now I am mostly using my HETT conditioner (and very rarely V05 Pomegranite Strengthening).

    I have used conditioners for shaving before. It's super moisturizing, which I love to counteract the drying/irritation effects of shaving. ;)
    Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

    Favorite...
    Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
    RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
    Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
    Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
    Mod-CG since 12/1/10! :happy7:
  • justajesuschickjustajesuschick Curl Neophyte Posts: 1,657Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Here is the HETT Conditioner:
    Water, Stearyl Alcohol, Cyclopentasiloxane, Cetyl Alcohol, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Dimethicone, Lavandula Angustifolia (Lavender) Flower/Leaf Stem Extract, Jade Plant (Crassula Argentea) Extract, Fragrance, Glutamic Acid, Benzyl Alcohol, EDTA, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, Citric Acid, Ext Violet 2.

    ...and the Aussie Mend Conditioner:

    Water, Cetyl Alcohol, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Stearyl Alcohol, Quaternium-18, Bis-Aminopropyl Dimethicone, Cetearyl Alcohol, Polysorbate 60, Benzyl Alcohol, Fragrance, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Glyceryl Stearate, Oleyl Alcohol, Citric Acid, EDTA, Psidium Guajava Fruit Extract, Citrus Gluaca Fruit Extract (Australian Desert Lime Extract), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone.

    If you have others you can use, I would. Like Wings suggests, I "repurposed" my non-CG stuff. The shampoos are now laundry soap and the conditioners are fabric softeners!
    I'm 47. Straight hair until 6/2010. THANKS, thyroid!
    2b, medium-fine, normal-low porosity, medium density and elasticity
    CG since 7/1/2010

    Cleanse: Abba Color Protect
    Condition: DevaCurl OC
    LI: CJ-Deep Fix, Beauticurls LI
    Curl Enhancer: CHS Curl Keeper, KCCC
    Gel: Alba Strong Hold Gel, BRHG, Hugo Naturals Gel, SS FHG, CJPP
    Trying/Maybe: Ecostyler, CJRM
  • wavynwild16wavynwild16 Posts: 2,121Registered Users
    Hi!! Well, here are the Aussie ingredients:
    Water, Ammonium Laureth Sulfate, Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate, Sodium Chloride, Glycol Distearate, Cocamide MEA, Dimethicone, Fragrance, Cetyl Alcohol, Sodium Citrate, Sodium Benzoate, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Disodium EDTA, Hydrogenated Polydecene, Citric Acid, Trimethylolpropane Tricaprylate/Tricaprate, Psidium Guajava Fruit Extract, Citrus Glauca Fruit (Australian Desert Lime) Extract, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, Ammonium Xylenesulfonate.


    The ingredients for the HETT are:
    Water, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Sodium Chloride, Lavandula Angustifolia (Lavender) Flower/Leaf Stem Extract, Jade Plant (Crassula Argentea) Extract, Fragrance, Cocamide MEA, Sodium Benzoate, Tetrasodium EDTA, Citric Acid, Sodium Citrate, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Linoleamidopropyl PG-Dimonium Chloride Phosphate, Propylene Glycol, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, Sodium Xylenesulfonate, Ext Violet 2.

    The ingredients that I underlined are things that I would not use on my hair.
    Do you have any CG lowpoo that you could use? I did not see what conditioners you are using but if they are full of silicones, I'd say that could narrow down your issue. It becomes a cycle, really.

    Ha ha, that's a good question -- I WISH I had CG [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/DevaCurl-LowPoo-p-54.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=devacurl-lowpoo]low-poo[/buylink]! But I don't have any sulfate-free poos I could use lying around the house -- my family is full of people who use sulfates (they're mostly straight-haired ;) )! I do have a CG-friendly cleansing conditioner, though (V05 Kiwi Lime Squeeze), and a 'cone free rinse-out (Tresemme Naturals).

    So you think the sulfates and 'cones are giving me my problems? (You know SO much more about this than I do or ever will!) I'm thinking I could piece together a strictly co-washing routine from the above products. Suggestions? I'm suppose I could co-wash and use my rinse-out every other day to begin with and follow up with my gel (sadly, I will probably use HETT gel because I ran out of my GF -- my hair isn't too keen on the HE stuff. :( ) and plopping. Does this sound okay? I'm thinking the Cleansing Conditioner will be cleaning enough on its own so my hair will be moisturized but refreshed (?).

    [/quote]Here is the HETT Conditioner:
    Water, Stearyl Alcohol, Cyclopentasiloxane, Cetyl Alcohol, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Dimethicone, Lavandula Angustifolia (Lavender) Flower/Leaf Stem Extract, Jade Plant (Crassula Argentea) Extract, Fragrance, Glutamic Acid, Benzyl Alcohol, EDTA, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, Citric Acid, Ext Violet 2.

    ...and the Aussie Mend Conditioner:

    Water, Cetyl Alcohol, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Stearyl Alcohol, Quaternium-18, Bis-Aminopropyl Dimethicone, Cetearyl Alcohol, Polysorbate 60, Benzyl Alcohol, Fragrance, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Glyceryl Stearate, Oleyl Alcohol, Citric Acid, EDTA, Psidium Guajava Fruit Extract, Citrus Gluaca Fruit Extract (Australian Desert Lime Extract), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone.

    If you have others you can use, I would. Like Wings suggests, I "repurposed" my non-CG stuff. The shampoos are now laundry soap and the conditioners are fabric softeners![/quote]

    Wow, I have to give you credit there -- you ladies are VERY creative with "repurposing"! I think I'm just going to return my oversized Nexxus Therrape bottle unused. I suppose I will start off on the CG journey sooner than I thought!
    Oh, and I have to say -- justajesuschick, I absolutely LOVE your new haircut! It looks factastic on you, and you have a really pretty curl pattern. You make me JEALOUS (in a good way!) :toothy2:
    Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

    Favorite...
    Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
    RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
    Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
    Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
    Mod-CG since 12/1/10! :happy7:
  • justajesuschickjustajesuschick Curl Neophyte Posts: 1,657Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    If you can return products, I would. Get started as soon as you can and I will bet that you will see a difference!
    If I get any lowpoos or CG conditioners that do not work for me, I will message you and will send them to you!
    I'm 47. Straight hair until 6/2010. THANKS, thyroid!
    2b, medium-fine, normal-low porosity, medium density and elasticity
    CG since 7/1/2010

    Cleanse: Abba Color Protect
    Condition: DevaCurl OC
    LI: CJ-Deep Fix, Beauticurls LI
    Curl Enhancer: CHS Curl Keeper, KCCC
    Gel: Alba Strong Hold Gel, BRHG, Hugo Naturals Gel, SS FHG, CJPP
    Trying/Maybe: Ecostyler, CJRM
  • abstractcurlsabstractcurls Posts: 380Registered Users
    I would try to ditch the other shampoos and try Tresseme Naturals Shampoo. I find it to be a lot less drying then a lot of the other stuff with sulfates.
  • wavynwild16wavynwild16 Posts: 2,121Registered Users
    Wow, thanks SO much, justajesuschick! I might have to take you up on that offer. :)

    And thank you too, abstractcurls.

    Sorry I didn't reply for such a long time. The Internet access was non-existent for a while on my computer, but I'm pretty sure it's back up...for now! ;-)
    Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

    Favorite...
    Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
    RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
    Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
    Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
    Mod-CG since 12/1/10! :happy7:

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