Hair Products and Their Bases

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  • SailaSaila Posts: 1,212Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I had no idea! I'm a chemist (not a cosmetic chemist) and I was wondering how all these ppl (street vendors, stay-at-home-moms, business women etc.) were making seemingly quality products. I thought, "Dag, they're not even chemists...how are they coming up with this?" Honestly, that's why I decided to stick with Aubrey. He may charge $1/oz., but he's a PhD chemist (at least he's qualified to do what he does).
    So, they have the nerve to charge all that money when they are just using pre-prescribed bases???? I don't have a problem with bases if the products are reasonably priced. Otherwise, it's a little "scammy".

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  • greenandchicgreenandchic Posts: 2,584Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I had no idea! I'm a chemist (not a cosmetic chemist) and I was wondering how all these ppl (street vendors, stay-at-home-moms, business women etc.) were making seemingly quality products. I thought, "Dag, they're not even chemists...how are they coming up with this?" Honestly, that's why I decided to stick with Aubrey. He may charge $1/oz., but he's a PhD chemist (at least he's qualified to do what he does).
    So, they have the nerve to charge all that money when they are just using pre-prescribed bases???? I don't have a problem with bases if the products are reasonably priced. Otherwise, it's a little "scammy".

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  • EllyEllyOxenFreeEllyEllyOxenFree Posts: 6,446Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    And they can be mad...when you come with this sob story:

    I began making my own skincare products because I couldn't find any that performed the way I needed and wanted them to. I was disappointed when I paid for something that promised all day moisture and didn't deliver. Aside from my own needs and of even greater concern to me was my son's skin. He has had a mild case of recurring eczema since he was a toddler. For years, he suffered with dry skin that was thirsty for gentle, long-lasting moisture. I was unable to find anything that could deliver essential moisture for both of us, so the quest to create the perfect body lotion began. I read and researched everything I could find on organic, plant based skin care.

    I began experimenting with various ingredients and finally, created my own line of natural, organic skin care products, which I now present to you. My formerly dry skin has responded exceedingly well to the daily use of my exfoliating scrubs, bath milks, nourishing sea salts and body creams. I am most thrilled to announce that my son's skin is now healthy and vibrant! Our knowledgeable dermatologist advised us that the best way to treat and manage eczema is to keep the skin properly and thoroughly moisturized. His eczema is in remission and completely under control: he keeps it moisturized with "Mommy's stuff". Treating my adult acne: organic alternatives that made a difference. I met my dermatologist when I was seeking treatment for adult onset acne.

    And you sell this: Phat Head Coconut Pudding with Silk Protein for $8 for 6oz

    Ingredients
    Organic Aloe Juice, Organic Coconut Oil, Emulsifying Wax, Palm Stearic Acid, Kosher Vegetable Glycerin, Organic Jojoba Oil, Organic Grapeseed Oil, Organic Avocado Oil, Organic Witch Hazel, Vitamin E, Phenoxyethanol, Hydrolyzed Silk, Xanthan Gum, Organic Black Willowbark Extract, Neem Oil, Rosemary Oleoresin, Citric Acid

    Then we find this: EW Silk Creme 16oz for $11.15
    Ingredients/Tech Specs:
    Aloe barbadensis (Organic Aloe) Juice, Cocos nucifera (Organic Coconut) Oil, Emulsifying Wax NF, Palm Stearic Acid, Kosher Vegetable Glycerin, Simmondsia chinensis (Jojoba) Oil, Vitis vinifera (Grapeseed) Oil, Persea americana (Avocado) Oil, Hamamelis virginiana (Witch Hazel), Tocopherol (Vitamin E), Phenoxyethanol, Hydrolyzed Silk, Xanthan Gum (Polysaccharide Gum), Salix nigra (Organic Black Willowbark) Extract, Mannan, Azadirachta indica (Neem) Oil, Rosmarinus officinalis (Rosemary) Oleoresin, Tetrasodium EDTA, Citric Acid

    Just sayin.

    :| Seriously? And such a great personal backstory!

    I'm late on this thread since I recently joined the site. Definitely interesting and something I'm going to look into. Thanks to all that provided info. I'm going to read every, single post.

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    Yea that's what I don't like. And funny thing is, I'm lazy as a motha, so even if you used a base and didn't charge out the butt for it, I'd probably buy it because I don't feel like mixing it myself. But why all the stories? WHY?

    Speaking of bases, I can't wait for my Hairveda!!
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  • principessa1984principessa1984 Posts: 129Registered Users
    To subscribe to a thread you just have to respond or go to "thread tools" at the top of the post and do it there.
    @ G&C and Saila...got it. thanks
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  • SailaSaila Posts: 1,212Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I'm on my iPod right now so I can't look it up myself, but are there reviews of bases? Some of the items on EW look interesting.
  • montREALadymontREALady Posts: 1,210Registered Users
    Saila wrote: »
    I had no idea! I'm a chemist (not a cosmetic chemist) and I was wondering how all these ppl (street vendors, stay-at-home-moms, business women etc.) were making seemingly quality products. I thought, "Dag, they're not even chemists...how are they coming up with this?" Honestly, that's why I decided to stick with Aubrey. He may charge $1/oz., but he's a PhD chemist (at least he's qualified to do what he does).
    So, they have the nerve to charge all that money when they are just using pre-prescribed bases???? I don't have a problem with bases if the products are reasonably priced. Otherwise, it's a little "scammy".

    How do I subscribe to/follow a thread?

    I think you have to change your default settings under "User CP."

    Yeah because I have to actively pick the threads I want to subscribe to, it's not automatic.

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  • montREALadymontREALady Posts: 1,210Registered Users
    And they can be mad...when you come with this sob story:

    I began making my own skincare products because I couldn't find any that performed the way I needed and wanted them to. I was disappointed when I paid for something that promised all day moisture and didn't deliver. Aside from my own needs and of even greater concern to me was my son's skin. He has had a mild case of recurring eczema since he was a toddler. For years, he suffered with dry skin that was thirsty for gentle, long-lasting moisture. I was unable to find anything that could deliver essential moisture for both of us, so the quest to create the perfect body lotion began. I read and researched everything I could find on organic, plant based skin care.

    I began experimenting with various ingredients and finally, created my own line of natural, organic skin care products, which I now present to you. My formerly dry skin has responded exceedingly well to the daily use of my exfoliating scrubs, bath milks, nourishing sea salts and body creams. I am most thrilled to announce that my son's skin is now healthy and vibrant! Our knowledgeable dermatologist advised us that the best way to treat and manage eczema is to keep the skin properly and thoroughly moisturized. His eczema is in remission and completely under control: he keeps it moisturized with "Mommy's stuff". Treating my adult acne: organic alternatives that made a difference. I met my dermatologist when I was seeking treatment for adult onset acne.

    And you sell this: Phat Head Coconut Pudding with Silk Protein for $8 for 6oz

    Ingredients
    Organic Aloe Juice, Organic Coconut Oil, Emulsifying Wax, Palm Stearic Acid, Kosher Vegetable Glycerin, Organic Jojoba Oil, Organic Grapeseed Oil, Organic Avocado Oil, Organic Witch Hazel, Vitamin E, Phenoxyethanol, Hydrolyzed Silk, Xanthan Gum, Organic Black Willowbark Extract, Neem Oil, Rosemary Oleoresin, Citric Acid

    Then we find this: EW Silk Creme 16oz for $11.15
    Ingredients/Tech Specs:
    Aloe barbadensis (Organic Aloe) Juice, Cocos nucifera (Organic Coconut) Oil, Emulsifying Wax NF, Palm Stearic Acid, Kosher Vegetable Glycerin, Simmondsia chinensis (Jojoba) Oil, Vitis vinifera (Grapeseed) Oil, Persea americana (Avocado) Oil, Hamamelis virginiana (Witch Hazel), Tocopherol (Vitamin E), Phenoxyethanol, Hydrolyzed Silk, Xanthan Gum (Polysaccharide Gum), Salix nigra (Organic Black Willowbark) Extract, Mannan, Azadirachta indica (Neem) Oil, Rosmarinus officinalis (Rosemary) Oleoresin, Tetrasodium EDTA, Citric Acid

    Just sayin.

    :| Seriously? And such a great personal backstory!

    I'm late on this thread since I recently joined the site. Definitely interesting and something I'm going to look into. Thanks to all that provided info. I'm going to read every, single post.

    Sent from my MB300 using CurlTalk App

    Yea that's what I don't like. And funny thing is, I'm lazy as a motha, so even if you used a base and didn't charge out the butt for it, I'd probably buy it because I don't feel like mixing it myself. But why all the stories? WHY?

    Speaking of bases, I can't wait for my Hairveda!!

    Same here re mixing it myself.

    Reasonable price for a product with a base=good,
    Long, touching story about said base=not good.

    What's so funny is if they found out about these bases, what made them think others wouldn't?

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  • Curly83Curly83 Posts: 140Registered Users
    OMG!!!

    You guys have opened my eyes. I'm sitting at work cursing under my breath. All this time I'm could have been buying bases and adding what works for my hair instead of spending all this money on the products and shipping. Not to mention how long you have to wait to receive the product.

    I was just looking into how I wanted to try Hairveda's products and found this post. Also saw that someone posted that some of her products are bases as well.

    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/4a/114641-hair-products-their-bases-12.html

    Such a shame. I'm going to start googling my ingredients.
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  • ecobellaecobella Posts: 91Registered Users
    Going Natural Herbal Styling Gel
    Ingredients
    Organic Aloe Juice, Witch Hazel, Phenoxyethanol, d-Calcium Pantothenate (Vitamin B5), Kosher Vegetable Glycerin, Alcohol denatured, Carbomer, TEA, Tetrasodium EDTA, Citric Acid
    is...EW Styling Jelly

    The Masque and No More Knots are from EW too.
    Thank you so much for posting this! I was thinking of buying this product! i remember my grandmother putting witch hazel in my hair when I wanted highlights so i could natural ones from the sun... That stuff will straight strip your hair.
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  • mariag002mariag002 Posts: 3,557Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I'm on Essential Wholesales website.. I keep adding stuff to the shopping cart and yet I can never get myself to submit LOL The shipping costs always gets me. I'm mostly just being CHEAP. I need to grab the Bee Mine bases.

    :lurk:
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  • greenandchicgreenandchic Posts: 2,584Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    mariag002 wrote: »
    I'm on Essential Wholesales website.. I keep adding stuff to the shopping cart and yet I can never get myself to submit LOL The shipping costs always gets me. I'm mostly just being CHEAP. I need to grab the Bee Mine bases.

    :lurk:

    Yeah, I'm not happy with the shipping prices either...
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  • alsaxonalsaxon Posts: 734Registered Users
    alsaxon wrote: »
    Has anyone tried this detangler from EW! It sounds great!!


    The detangler is off white and has an inherent scent. The pH of our detangler compacts the cuticle layer of the hair, which will result in shiny, bouncy hair that is not weighed down. The active ingredients in detangler leaves the hair feeling smooth, while leaving a "waxy" coating on the hair. This detangler works because hair tangles when the cuticle layer of one hair catches on the cuticle layer of another hair.

    The conditioning ingredients of this detangler form a protective layer over the cortex where the cuticle cells have broken away, which creates a protective layer or coating over these rough edges. The protective coating created with conditioner also seals in moisture and reduces static electricity. For best results when hair is damp, spray on small amounts at a time and let sit for a few seconds. Comb the hair starting at the lowest point of the tangled area one section of hair at a time. Reapply Detangler as needed.

    Directions: Wash Hair, towel dry and apply detangler. Avoid eye contact. Do not use on sensitive scalps if you have included any essential oils into the base.

    Ingredients/Tech Specs:
    Aloe barbadensis (Organic Aloe) Juice, Cetearyl Alcohol, Ricinus communis (Castor Seed) Oil, Stearalkonium Chloride, Tocopherol (Vitamin E), Phenoxyethanol, Kosher Vegetable Glycerin, Hydrolized Wheat Protein, d-Calcium Pantothenate (Panthenol Vitamin B5), Limnanthes alba (Meadowfoam) Oil, Salix nigra (Black Willow Bark) Extract, Rosmarinus officnalis (Rosemary Oleoresin), Azadirachta indica (Neem) Oil

    Organic Content: 96%

    pH: 3.5 – 4

    Essential or Fragrance oils can be added at .25 % to .5% to this conditioner.

    We highly recommend that you scent any product at the lowest percentage first and increase as needed. This will help you avoid thinning of the product and excessive scenting. It is easier to add more scent if you need more, but impossible to remove scent without adding more product.

    Leave-in Detangler Spray

    Anyone try the leavein detangler yet?
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  • greenandchicgreenandchic Posts: 2,584Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    alsaxon wrote: »
    alsaxon wrote: »

    Anyone try the leavein detangler yet?

    I'm curious about this too!
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  • alsaxonalsaxon Posts: 734Registered Users
    ellepixie wrote: »

    *sigh* sad. The more we uncover, the sadder this all seems. I mean really. THIS is what folks feel they need to do to make a living? Scheme and lie?

    Girl...honestly, I'm getting pissed at a lot of people in the natural hair community. I saw this video the other day of a chick on YT who said she wasn't doing anymore product reviews because it was free advertising for the companies?! I was like, what ho? Soooo because they aren't paying you, you don't want to share information about products that may be beneficial to a newbie or transitioner? I understand that product reviews can help a company's sales, but it can also hurt - but that's the beauty of doing reviews "just because." You can give a blunt opinion of a product. While yes, people have come to me and said they will buy a product after I got good results, they will also say they decided not to buy it (MIXED CHICKS, lol) after I gave it a less than stellar review.

    I really feel like there are a lot of people who are just getting greedy and want to make a buck off of things that should be free and we should be sharing amongst one another. Like a certain YouTuber who took down all her hair tutorials because she is putting them on DVD for people to buy. Or the women who made their own products that magically made their hair grow. Smh. :roll:

    Okay rant over.
    Yep.. I totally agree with the bolded... I said the exact same thing to my SO when we were talking about Afroveda's apparent greed and disregard for loyal customers and he called me a socialist! LOL

    But realistically, I think she and others on YT are capitalizing on what some perceive to be a "trend" of going natural... African Export did a great YT video about "Bandwagons" the other day and how some folks will get duped b/c they need something to follow, to validate themselves as naturals... For those folks, they will buy hair tutorial dvds and "boutique" priced natural products because the buy into the marketing concept. The only difference between some of these bulk bases and the final product being sold by these companies is MARKETING... they take a formula that works and give it an image, a concept and some packaging that appeals to an audience.. in the case of Afroveda..it's the whole "Ayurveda" concept. But I think someone else commented on another thread about how much ayurvedic ingredients are really in the product, probably a marginal amount..

    For those who will receive it, knowledge is power.. knowing that people who are claiming to be mixtresses are blending bases and spoiled milk has totally opened my eyes

    On another note... I am shocked that the consultants’ report is on the world wide web!! LMAO..Airing her dirty draws and bidness out to competitors and customers. Daaayum! Where they do that at? Thanks for sharing Elle.. your research skills are to be commended ;-)

    What did the Afroveda consultants report say? The link is dead now.
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  • jojouhgogojojouhgogo Posts: 43Registered Users
    Have any of you tried the silk braidout method? I tried it for the first time yesterday and I REALLY like it. I recommend this method to anyone willing to try it(: its fairly easy, my only difficulty is with tying it at the endss:(
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  • naturallycreolenaturallycreole Posts: 112Registered Users
    jojouhgogo wrote: »
    Have any of you tried the silk braidout method? I tried it for the first time yesterday and I REALLY like it. I recommend this method to anyone willing to try it(: its fairly easy, my only difficulty is with tying it at the endss:(

    Are you talking about the satin scarf braidout? If so, I've been doing it off and on about 1 yr, when it's not cold weather and I have time because my hair takes forever to dry. My only issue is the end also, so I usually just use a purple perm rod at the end and I have a perfect curl.
  • alsaxonalsaxon Posts: 734Registered Users
    jojouhgogo wrote: »
    Have any of you tried the silk braidout method? I tried it for the first time yesterday and I REALLY like it. I recommend this method to anyone willing to try it(: its fairly easy, my only difficulty is with tying it at the endss:(

    Never heard of this. Can u describe the process?
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  • naturallycreolenaturallycreole Posts: 112Registered Users
    Alsaxon, I know I'm late, just seeing this. Easy process- once you decide where you want your part, section your hair to braid and instead of braiding (plaiting) the normal way of 3 separate sections of hair per braid, use 2 sections of hair and 1 strip of stretchable satin material. It's as if the strip of material is the 3rd section of hair. Refer to: zanandrob.com/braidout.



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  • goobernutgoobernut Posts: 2,317Registered Users
    Hey everyone -- I hate to beat a dead horse, but I was wondering...

    I went looking for the Hairveda base (I had it bookmarked), cause I wanted to try formulating it with a different protein, and I don't wanna just buy the one she has w/o protein (to add a different type) cause it has a ton more oils. However, the bookmark I had doesn't have exactly the same base anymore -- I also followed the links at the beginning of this thread, as well as the ones in the other post mentioned in this thread.

    That makes me sad. I'll prolly order more hairveda anyway to compare to the original product that she mixed that I liked, but meh, I was looking forward to experimenting. Also sorta scary, because if we can't buy it as a base anymore, does this mean when she runs out, will she have to re-formulate? OR can she get it somewhere that we aren't?
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  • ltownltown Posts: 20Registered Users
    Anyone find a enso base for olive and honey butter?
  • golden75golden75 Posts: 3Registered Users
    This is like the best thread i ever read! Now after i finish using most of my products that are probably doctored up bases, I will just go straight to the source, for much less.

    This really curbed my pj-ism (kind of), but will certainly make me research before I drop a dime. I was about to buy something yesterday, and this thread stopped, and the one about 3 products from 3 vendors = 2 different products instead of 3.
  • CurlyElectraCurlyElectra Posts: 1,145Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I recently purchased a few bases once I found out that Margarita Bloom hair products used bases. They didn't say that they were handmade, so no beef, but I wasn't going to pay $22 for 6oz of condish when I could get 30oz for $17.

    Margarita Bloom Hibiscus and Ginseng Condish = ITDF Organicals Deep Conditioner

    Sugar Beet & Algae Hair Tonic = ITDF Shine & Hydrate Fortifying Spray Conditioner

    I also got their new gel. Surprisingly, they didn't smell bad - I thought they were going to be really funky, but they kind of smelled like Ben Gay (not in a bad way, the smell was REALLY light) or reminded me of babies. I haven't used them yet, but I added FOs and they smell great now.
  • NaturalistaNaturalista Posts: 5,491Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I recently purchased a few bases once I found out that Margarita Bloom hair products used bases. They didn't say that they were handmade, so no beef, but I wasn't going to pay $22 for 6oz of condish when I could get 30oz for $17.

    Margarita Bloom Hibiscus and Ginseng Condish = ITDF Organicals Deep Conditioner

    Sugar Beet & Algae Hair Tonic = ITDF Shine & Hydrate Fortifying Spray Conditioner

    I also got their new gel. Surprisingly, they didn't smell bad - I thought they were going to be really funky, but they kind of smelled like Ben Gay (not in a bad way, the smell was REALLY light) or reminded me of babies. I haven't used them yet, but I added FOs and they smell great now.

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  • missbanjomissbanjo Posts: 3,088Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Ingredients to Die For? Not positive...
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  • CurlyElectraCurlyElectra Posts: 1,145Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I recently purchased a few bases once I found out that Margarita Bloom hair products used bases. They didn't say that they were handmade, so no beef, but I wasn't going to pay $22 for 6oz of condish when I could get 30oz for $17.

    Margarita Bloom Hibiscus and Ginseng Condish = ITDF Organicals Deep Conditioner

    Sugar Beet & Algae Hair Tonic = ITDF Shine & Hydrate Fortifying Spray Conditioner

    I also got their new gel. Surprisingly, they didn't smell bad - I thought they were going to be really funky, but they kind of smelled like Ben Gay (not in a bad way, the smell was REALLY light) or reminded me of babies. I haven't used them yet, but I added FOs and they smell great now.

    ITDF?

    Unscented Bases

    They also make the base that Jasmine's uses for the Shea Butter Conditioner - Creme Conditioner.

    I really want to try them!! If these work well I'm going to order again - I got my stuff for $8 - which isn't the greatest, but when you sign up for their newsletter you get a coupon for $5 off.
  • Naturalbeauty81Naturalbeauty81 Posts: 108Registered Users
    great thread.... subscribe

    Agree totally!!!! Natural products once again do not have to be expensive if there is quality. The quest of these companies should be commercial advertising. If that occurs more customers would purchase and the prices could decrease all the while the producer is able to make more income.
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  • Ogo'mOgo'm Posts: 242Registered Users

    I really want to try them!! If these work well I'm going to order again - I got my stuff for $8 - which isn't the greatest, but when you sign up for their newsletter you get a coupon for $5 off.

    Thanks for the link. I just ordered some body and face lotion samples.
  • coilynappcoilynapp Posts: 4,233Registered Users
    missbanjo wrote: »
    Ingredients to Die For? Not positive...
    I have never had any problems with ITDF
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  • ThriftyCurlyThriftyCurly Posts: 12Registered Users
    This thread being a year old, I know many have given you guys praise but I must also do so myself. You guys are AWESOME, I spent so much time trying to figure out what exactly a base was, where to get them and what they had to do with anything and I got my answers here. Aside from that, the paramount information about scams etc that I've found within these forums have been EXTREMELY beneficial to me in my new natural hair journey. Thank you.
  • CurlyElectraCurlyElectra Posts: 1,145Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Really liking the Organicals DC so far. It's heavy, so I'm not scared to mix it with my FOs and thin it out, and it has a ton of slip. I also like that av juice is the first ingredient instead of water.

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