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Keragreen?

i've heard about this treatment but have yet to see any reviews online.
has anyone gotten this and has your hair fallen out?
i would like to get it done but I am afraid of my hair falling out more then now.
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3b/C with nicer curls on the bottom!
Hair: naturally very dry and VERY porous
hair seems to be moody.
Does not seem to like oils
Does not like protein or too much?
Does not like rich products

So, I ask myself. What does it like? That is the question, and I'm on a mission.

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  • followmeskyfollowmesky Posts: 287Registered Users
    So, my cousin got this keratin treatment done and she loves it!
    She has tight curly hair but always wears it straight. She has yet to embrace her curls. Her hair looks great and shiny. She is absolutely in love with it.

    Apparently, this is all natural and works as far as the procedure the same as any keratin treatment.

    Her stylist just started working on the Keragreen. So, I'll keep you all p osted as soon as I hear more stories, hopefully from someone that embraces and rocks the locks.:)
    3b/C with nicer curls on the bottom!
    Hair: naturally very dry and VERY porous
    hair seems to be moody.
    Does not seem to like oils
    Does not like protein or too much?
    Does not like rich products

    So, I ask myself. What does it like? That is the question, and I'm on a mission.
  • freemayofreemayo Posts: 53Registered Users
    I also want to hear from someone who has used this. I'm looking for an alternative to the treatments with formaldehyde.
  • BlancheBlanche Posts: 4Registered Users
    They say they don't have formaldehyde in Keragreen but we know that some keratin treatments use different kinds of aldehydes (Copolla does). It seems that Keragreen has no aldehydes at all, which is wonderful :-o. I wonder what is the 'x' ingredient that changes your hair without formol. Well, no reviews online so far...I'm so curious about this new product!
  • followmeskyfollowmesky Posts: 287Registered Users
    rsdebora wrote: »
    They say they don't have formaldehyde in Keragreen but we know that some keratin treatments use different kinds of aldehydes (Copolla does). It seems that Keragreen has no aldehydes at all, which is wonderful :-o. I wonder what is the 'x' ingredient that changes your hair without formol. Well, no reviews online so far...I'm so curious about this new product!

    Her stylist, apparently said it its free of those harsh chemicals.
    I can't really trust as this is not coming from a curly friendly stylist. If you know what I mean...

    If there is anyone out there that is familiar with those ingredients, p lease chime in. We are all curious to know... at least I am.
    3b/C with nicer curls on the bottom!
    Hair: naturally very dry and VERY porous
    hair seems to be moody.
    Does not seem to like oils
    Does not like protein or too much?
    Does not like rich products

    So, I ask myself. What does it like? That is the question, and I'm on a mission.
  • freemayofreemayo Posts: 53Registered Users
    Okay, here is their list

    purified water (60-80%)
    cetearyl alcohol (10-16%)
    dimethicone (8-12%)
    behentrimonium methosulfate (1-5%)
    keratin complex (1-3%)
    olive oil (1-2%)
    hydrolyzed collagen (1-2%)
    L-cystine (1-2%)
    centrimonium chloride (1-3%)
    glycerine (1-3%)
    vitamin BDP (less than 1%)
    saliguard BDP (less than 1%)
    extract (arnica extract, polycarpus leaf extract, egg yolk extract, hydrolyzed wheat protein, nettle extract, wheat germ) (less than 1%)
    hydrolyzed silk (less than 1%)
    jojoba oil (less than 1%)
    fragrance (less than 1%)
    color (less than 1%)

    I was not able to upload the pdf files but you can request this info from the company directly. I cant find anything that suggests formaldehyde in here but I'd have to do more research- perhaps a few of these ingredients combine to form formaldehyde at high temperatures or something.

    Any chemists in the house?
  • freemayofreemayo Posts: 53Registered Users
    It looks like there may be some formaldehyde in keragreen. At least that's what osha oregon found.
    Perhaps the behentrimonium methosulfate???
    Don't know.
    But they found 1.5% formaldehyde. Only two bottles checked though.
    You can find the final report if you click on the following article

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    and then scroll down to the bottom, where it says "read osha's report...."

    I don't know how bad this would be if you only used it a few times a year, and if it was in a well ventilated area, perhaps with a respirator or something.
    But since formaldehyde is associated with nasal and lung cancer (not good when you're breathing it in), then it makes me wonder if I should just give up on the whole brazilian kerating idea.
    i know if i were a stylist, i definitely wouldn't want to expose myself to this on a regular basis. never.
  • BlancheBlanche Posts: 4Registered Users
    It can't be the Behentrimonium Methosulfate (derived from canola and rapeseed oil).It is used as a natural-derived conditioning agent within Green Chemistry and is known to have the following properties:
    • Extremely mild
    • Effective shine agent
    • Stable in wide range of pH systems
    • Excellent detangling agent
    • Powerful emulsifier
  • followmeskyfollowmesky Posts: 287Registered Users
    wow, I am so glad you guys found information. This is helpful, though, being said you found this. I too wonder if I should give up o n the idea. I was at the salon yesterday and was ready to set up by keragreen appt for next week but second guessed myself until I got all the information.
    The lady keeps telling me it would do wonders on my hair and how I am a good candidate. She and her clients all agree how great this is.
    I still don't buy it . Sorry, I am the type that needs to know everything before I jump ship. in other words, I am not easily convinced.
    3b/C with nicer curls on the bottom!
    Hair: naturally very dry and VERY porous
    hair seems to be moody.
    Does not seem to like oils
    Does not like protein or too much?
    Does not like rich products

    So, I ask myself. What does it like? That is the question, and I'm on a mission.
  • JohnMassersJohnMassers Posts: 3Registered Users
    I spoke to chemists working for OSHA who confirmed that the test was only run against 2 samples of KeraGreen and that they were completely inconclusive because the type of testing they did requires at least 25 samples tested. I have received all of the MSDS sheets from the manufacturer and the ingredient suppliers (where brand name substances were supplied on their ingredients list) and did not find any aldehydes. I spoke to someone at the company who said that their product works great but clients receiving the treatment cannot wash their hair for 2 - 3 days because of the lack of formaldehyde. They said formaldehyde is a bonding accelerant for the keratin to bond to the hair and that they use an FDA approved food preservative called Saliguard (sp?) that doesn't accelerate the bonding but preserves the keratin while it naturally bonds over the 2 - 3 day period.

    I spoke to my chemist friend who confirmed that this is a unique but possibly effective approach. However, he felt impractical as asking women to refrain from shampooing for several days may not be effective.

    I ordered their salon package and tried it on a few clients so far. Out of 7, only 1 had a problem waiting to shampoo and decided not to do it. The product smells amazing, like cherries and banana's. There is no itchy, watery eyes or scalp irritation.

    I guess the morale of the story with KeraGreen is that if you get rid of a chemical, you have to give up something. In KeraGreen, it is absolutely the ability for a client to wash their hair the same day. If you think you you and your clients can live with this, then it is a phenomenal product. If your clients can't tolerate the wait, it may not work for you at all.
  • BlancheBlanche Posts: 4Registered Users
    Saliguard, the 'preservative', contains Phenoxyethanol

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    Check it out:
    Brazilian Straightening Systems - An Article FYI & SAFETY! - hairbrained

    Phenoxyethanol is an organic alcohol. Most organic alcohols can be oxidized to an aldehyde but it doesn’t just happen, even with the high heat used with the Brazilian straightening products. Instead, it required the use of a potent oxidizing agent (such as a chromate) and specific reaction conditions. But, if it did happen it wouldn’t produce formaldehyde. Also, you should be aware that phenoxyethanol is used as a preservative and as such is present in the formula at a low percentage, probably less than 0.5%.


    (Cyrus Bulsara)
  • CeladonCeladon Posts: 26Registered Users
    freemayo wrote: »
    I also want to hear from someone who has used this. I'm looking for an alternative to the treatments with formaldehyde.

    Below is a great article about the new products to use at home that contain keratin. I recommend using only the keratin conditioners, instead of the keratin shampoos; the real power is in using the keratin in the conditioner as the last step before you move onto setting and styling.

    I use the Rusk Deep Shine conditioner; comes in a condi and deep condi. I use Wen to cleanse, then finish with the keratin condi.

    Keratin, Brazilian Blowouts Spread to the Masses - Beauty Industry and Products News - WWD.com
  • JohnMassersJohnMassers Posts: 3Registered Users
    If a substance is organic, you can be on one thing, it has formaldehyde in it. Formaldehyde is a macro element and exists in small amounts in just about every living or used-to-be-living thing. It is in the air we breathe, the food we eat, and all around us everyday. It is toxic, carcinogenic, and even dangerously deadly but only in higher concentrations.

    The Keragreen people did an admirable job by having several independent lab test their formula and by posting the actual certified lab reports on their website. Keragreen Formaldehyde Results | Organic Salon Systems There was a lab report from Brazilian Blowout's website too that I cannot find but they did not post the actual documents.

    One thing is for certain, salon professionals are going to have to make a judgement about the products they use and clients are going to have to continue to exercise their choice of what salon they give their loyalty to. I too wish there was a more bright-line test to product safety like that which exists in the drug industry.
  • Emi73Emi73 Posts: 8Registered Users
    I have had Keragreen done twice and I love it. I actually posted about it before getting it done last year and I was accused of signing on simply to endorse them (apparently you have to be trolling this site 24/7 to get any credibility and I simply don’t have the time for that)

    Anyhoot, I got it done last year and just did it again this week. It really is an amazing product and what I loved most was that I did not lose my curl. That was really what I was most afraid of. While I like the option of easily straightening my hair, I really do love my curls and didn’t want to lose them.

    The results were shiny, soft, manageable hair with big lose curls instead of tight ones.

    I can’t really compare it to the other Keratin treatments out there because I only mustered up the courage to try Keragreen and have stuck with them. I know friends that have done the other treatments and while they were happy with their results, they had to admit that my hair was much “shinier” and “healthy looking.” If this is due to their gentle formula or the fact that I have healthy, virgin, hair I don’t know but regardless, I was thrilled with the results and I wouldn’t try any other product.

    BTW, I have long (past the shoulders) 3B hair.
  • followmeskyfollowmesky Posts: 287Registered Users
    I went to a salon that does this and the stylist gave me the procedure list/paperwork that Keragreen provides them with. On the bottom of the paper it has it listed in small letters, it contains less then 1 percent of formaldehyde.
    This is exactly what it says" Independent accredited lab test concluded Keragreen contains less than one tenth of one percent formaldehyde"

    "Some of the exclusive ingredients"
    demonized water
    keratin complex
    olive oil
    hydrolyzed collagen
    l-cystine
    hydrolyzed silk
    vitamin b5
    wheat germ
    jojoba oil
    citric acid extracts

    I am due to get a strand test and I will check back with you guys. Oh that stylist is charging 200. She said they, keragreen charges 100 for the keratin.
    3b/C with nicer curls on the bottom!
    Hair: naturally very dry and VERY porous
    hair seems to be moody.
    Does not seem to like oils
    Does not like protein or too much?
    Does not like rich products

    So, I ask myself. What does it like? That is the question, and I'm on a mission.
  • jeanniejeannie Posts: 3Registered Users
    I'm new to this site but grateful that I found it! I have been wanting a Keratin treatment forever but have been holding out because I don't trust that the products are even close to being formaldehyde free and I think it's horrible that companies keep marketing them as such. Anyway happy to find a place where people are as cautious about what they put on their bodies as I am.

    Regarding the Keragreen - after researching each of the ingredients & reading all the posts here on this site it seems to be the answer to my prayers....I hope. Can anyone recommend a salon in NYC that uses Keragreen? I'm having trouble finding one.
  • followmeskyfollowmesky Posts: 287Registered Users
    Hey, I got the Keragreen done. Its a simple procedure. I think many of us can get it done at home. For me, since my hair is a mixture of curls, ranging from 3b and 3c in different areas it would be quite a challenge as long as you have a partner that will help you do it.

    So, finally about the results. I am extremely disappointed. It did absolutely NOTHING, actually, I think it made my hair drier and even more porous. At least, it feels that way. The first 4 days you have to wear it pin straight and you can't apply pressure, wear it up or anything. During those 4 days, I was ecstatic. My hair was super soft, incredibly shiny and just wonderful, until I washed it and it was back to its regular self.

    I think what hurts me the most is the money I paid, plus the high expectations I had. Those 4 days lead to anticipation and I guess hopefulness.

    I will add some pictures of the before and after but please notice the shine is all about the flat iron and having the product in. I think the flat iron makes everything. Personally.

    As of now, I am just sad and need something NATURAL that will help with the frizz especially, with the summer coming. My hair is so dry and just makes me feel not so great. So, if anyone knows of some natural product that will help, please let me know. I heard about some natural hair relaxer? Is this even true? Really, I don't need a relaxer just a frizz remover. My hair straight is just plain puffy, curly, is even more.

    Help!?
    3b/C with nicer curls on the bottom!
    Hair: naturally very dry and VERY porous
    hair seems to be moody.
    Does not seem to like oils
    Does not like protein or too much?
    Does not like rich products

    So, I ask myself. What does it like? That is the question, and I'm on a mission.
  • jeanniejeannie Posts: 3Registered Users
    Crap I was wanting to get the keragreen treatment done. Can I ask, did you get it done or do it yourself? It sounds like it hasn't taken the frizz out at all and that's what I would need it to do and to loosen my curl just a bit. I'm curious because I just spoke to a 'organic' salon owner I found in NY who does Keragreen and she was saying how pleased the clients were with the results....now I'm wondering if that's true.
  • stylistlaciestylistlacie Posts: 10Registered Users
    I saw this thread after looking for a safer keratin alternative to Brazilian Blowout. I decided to try the product out on a couple of clients and see the results, since they were quite mixed here.

    To put it simply, I am sold. I like the results of Keragreen more than most chemical alternatives, as did the clients (all 6 of them).

    You WILL NOT BELIEVE THE SMELL OF THIS STUFF! It smells like tropical fruit. Customers LOVE IT.

    I am seriously considering replacing all of my Keratin with Keragreen. If you havent tried it yet, I would give it a shot at least once to see the results and differences between other products.

    Have any other salon owners seen success with this line? Do you have any tips?

    Lacie
  • jeanniejeannie Posts: 3Registered Users
    I finally decided to take the plunge and try the Keragreen ( I was nervous about spending 300+ if it didn't work as some had posted). The results, I am impressed. I've never done a keratin treatment before so this was my first. My hair was super frizzy, dry with tight Shirley Temple type curls. Now it is way way less frizzy and it has actually calmed down the curl some, not too much but I'm happy about that because I was wanting to keep my curl. It's just less poofy, less frizzy with looser curls and way more manageable. I did take the stylist's advice and buy the shampoo, conditioner and deep conditioner but I didn't buy them from the salon because their prices were ridiculous. I am very happy with the results and confused as to how some people had no luck with it. I asked the stylist and she told me a lot of people don't apply it correctly. So if you go get it done make sure the stuff sits on your head for 20 minutes before they even come near you with a flat iron. Also you cannot wash your hair for 3-4 days after. I'm still using just their shampoo and conditioner and I use the deep conditioner as a leave in. So all in all it has worked and I am happy with it. On major humid days my hair still frizzes some but no way near what it used to and when there's low humidity my hair looks really amazing and shiny. I would definitely get it done again. I'm posting this because I waited a really long time before getting this treatment done out of fear that it wouldn't work and I'd be out $300. But, it has worked wonderfully for me and if I had known I'd have gotten it done sooner. I guess just be sure the salon who does it has a good track record with the treatment from their customers and if you can find the shampoo and conditioner cheap use them.
    :love5:
  • keratin4ukeratin4u Posts: 31Registered Users
    Hi Everyone

    We just released a new retail line of keratin treatment. KeraPremium is safe to use at home 100% formaldehyde and aldehyde free.
    We will be featured as well on SkyMall magazine.
    Any questions let us know.
  • imadethatimadethat Posts: 1Registered Users
    I am a stylist and had about given up on finding a truly formaldehyde free keratin treatment. I had come to the conclusion that the formaldehyde was part of the process and that was a risk I was not willing to take. I just happened to run across KeraGreen after I had basically given up and I still didn't believe it. They laid it all out there, offered the MSDS, something that you can't even get from Brazilian Blowout if you already carry it and ask real nice. I decided to try it, they offer us stylists a 30 day money back guarantee, and have only had one client that wasn't 100% satisfied out of the 10 that I have done. The one VERY important thing that you have to do is buy the proper shampoo or it will wash right out. Yes, the KeraGreen shampoo is very expensive but if you do enough research you can find another option. You have to use something that is Sulfate and Sodium Chloride free. The other option I sell my clients is DermOrganic. I do the Keragreen as a package that includes the shampoo and conditioner so there isn't a issue with not buying the product. The three day wait period is very important and will eliminate some people and the only thing I dislike, since I work alone, is that I don't have anyone to give me the service!
  • HairChic87HairChic87 Posts: 1Registered Users
    KeraGreen Keratin and Protein Hair Treatment is an exclusive formulation with L-Cystine, Hydrolyzed Keratin and Collagen, and other active components of certified Organic and natural ingredients that helps to restore hair to its natural state. It helps in controlling hair loss and managing frizzy, weak, coarse hair.

    I use organic's Hair color, and organic salon systems took in the company that started the keragreen treatment and reformulated it. Mind you, Organic salon systems is formulated in the UK and made there, they are ver strict on what goes into their color and products. I went to a class for color and the Keragreen treatment had just come out and they touched base on the treatment, I was very skeptical about the product but after seeing what it does and DOES NOT SMELL, at all... the L-cystine is actually a amino acid, which in some cases have found to stimulate more hair growth.

    I currently do not have the product yet ( I am going to order in next week) I was sold when it first came out but the salon i worked for didn't want to buy it for me. I am very sensitive nosed, and we used a product called simply smooth keratin treatment and i was told it had not formaldehyde it in, they were wrong after doing testing there was .02 percent of formaldehyde. I could smell and clients could to. NOT GOOD!!! If i were to go with anything i would go with the keragreen over simply smooth anyway. If you want more information on it go to Organic Salon Systems Professional Organic Salon Products they will give you a run down of the ingredients and what they are...

    take it from a hairstylists point of view!!!
  • BeebopBeebop Posts: 456Registered Users
    I know this thread is a few years old but wanted to update it with my experience with the Keragreen smoothing treatment.
    I've been getting my hair highlighted with organic color systems at an organic salon for a while now because my hair doesn't like regular bleach & I've gone back and forth about trying this smoothing treatment because of my battle with frizz even after trying almost every recommendation on this site it just really bothers me, plus after several years of doing the CG method my hair has gotten thicker (density) and curlier which I know is most people's goal but mine seems to grow and get poofy as the day goes on. I want silky soft waves and spirals that I can get my fingers through like I use to have and no product seemed to do that for me.
    So yesterday I bit the bullet and had the treatment done after seeing several curly girls at work get different treatments done and still keep their curls. My stylest told me it would help with the frizz & relax the curl a little.
    Putting the treatment on was easy, smelled really good, no fumes or smoking when flat ironing and I left with the product in my hair after blow dry & flat iron and won't wash for 3 days.
    After sleeping on it last night I didn't even have "bed head" so I'm excited to see how it turns out!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Curly in AZ-2c-3a/Cherub/fine-med. texture/high porosity/normal elasticity/highlighted
    Wash-Desert essence mango, Giovanni pineapple ginger, Dermorganic curl cleanser
    Cond.- Desert essence mango, Giovanni pineapple ginger, Dermorganic curl conditioner
    Leave In- Conditioner large pea size
    Stylers- Condition 3-in-1 mousse, Biologe mousse, Bioterra gel, Paul Mitchell sculpting foam,original sprout gel, BRHG,O'right golden rose serum, Shaper hairspray for extra hold.:coffee2::coffee:
  • BeebopBeebop Posts: 456Registered Users
    Update now the Keragreen treatment did absolutely nothing to my hair except maybe make it a little softer the first week and now it's totally back to normal after spending 250.00 ugh!�� My hair is only a 3a and I was expecting it to loosen my curl to make it more beach wavy and to take away the frizz but it didn't help at all, waiting for a call back from my salon after calling them almost 2 weeks ago to see if they can do anything...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Curly in AZ-2c-3a/Cherub/fine-med. texture/high porosity/normal elasticity/highlighted
    Wash-Desert essence mango, Giovanni pineapple ginger, Dermorganic curl cleanser
    Cond.- Desert essence mango, Giovanni pineapple ginger, Dermorganic curl conditioner
    Leave In- Conditioner large pea size
    Stylers- Condition 3-in-1 mousse, Biologe mousse, Bioterra gel, Paul Mitchell sculpting foam,original sprout gel, BRHG,O'right golden rose serum, Shaper hairspray for extra hold.:coffee2::coffee:
  • BeebopBeebop Posts: 456Registered Users
    I contacted the Keragreen company and got a call back and the lady left a message that it was urgent that she talk to me, so when I called her back she told me they had a current law suit against distributors tampering with their Keragreen product and felt I didn't get the real product on my hair so they were contacting my salon to send them a new bottle and re-do my hair for free.
    I just had it re-done this week and it looks awesome! It's shiny,soft,silky, less poofy & the curls are looser! Exactly what I wanted😀 Now let's see how long the results last👍🏻
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Curly in AZ-2c-3a/Cherub/fine-med. texture/high porosity/normal elasticity/highlighted
    Wash-Desert essence mango, Giovanni pineapple ginger, Dermorganic curl cleanser
    Cond.- Desert essence mango, Giovanni pineapple ginger, Dermorganic curl conditioner
    Leave In- Conditioner large pea size
    Stylers- Condition 3-in-1 mousse, Biologe mousse, Bioterra gel, Paul Mitchell sculpting foam,original sprout gel, BRHG,O'right golden rose serum, Shaper hairspray for extra hold.:coffee2::coffee:
  • BeebopBeebop Posts: 456Registered Users
    I contacted the Keragreen company and got a call back and the lady left a message that it was urgent that she talk to me, so when I called her back she told me they had a current law suit against distributors tampering with their Keragreen product and felt I didn't get the real product on my hair so they were contacting my salon to send them a new bottle and re-do my hair for free.
    I just had it re-done this week and it looks awesome! It's shiny,soft,silky, less poofy & the curls are looser! Exactly what I wanted😀 Now let's see how long the results last👍🏻
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Curly in AZ-2c-3a/Cherub/fine-med. texture/high porosity/normal elasticity/highlighted
    Wash-Desert essence mango, Giovanni pineapple ginger, Dermorganic curl cleanser
    Cond.- Desert essence mango, Giovanni pineapple ginger, Dermorganic curl conditioner
    Leave In- Conditioner large pea size
    Stylers- Condition 3-in-1 mousse, Biologe mousse, Bioterra gel, Paul Mitchell sculpting foam,original sprout gel, BRHG,O'right golden rose serum, Shaper hairspray for extra hold.:coffee2::coffee: