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How do you deal with a weak wave pattern?

pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users
Calling Wavies with a weak wave pattern. How do you deal with it? Please state any methods or products that encourage your waves/curl.

Techniques/methods list.
http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?p=1458132#post1458132
Acronyms/abbreviations/Definitions
http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?t=74759
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2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
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  • pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    Methods:
    Ice queen method.-I skip the cold water because I hate being cold. But I tried a cold water rinse when it was 100 degrees outside and it does help with clumping.
    plopping
    Pixie diffusing
    Smasters Awesome hair technique

    Products:
    Ecostyler
    BRHG

    I find good clumps give me better curl.
    The ice queen method gives me great clumps. Ecostyler also gives me good clumps (and encourages curl).

    Getting some of the water off my hair as it dries also helps. The weight of the water pulls the hair downward as it dries. Plopping and diffusing help with this.

    Pixie diffusing and the smasters method help to form the curls/waves as they dry.

    BRHG has a very strong hold and helps the waves to be closer to the way they looked when they dried after I SOTC.
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    2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
    Cowash: Tresemme naturals
    Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
    Curl enhancer: FSG
    Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
    PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
    Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
  • curlyserfcurlyserf Posts: 858Registered Users
    Where can I buy the BRHG?

    Kerri
    2?/3a ??? ; fine; high density; normal porosity and elasticity
    color treated

    CURRENTLY USING:
    cleanse:Organix Vanilla Silk, Use Me Cleansing Cream
    rinse out/li:Ion Effective Care, Tresseme Naturals Radiant Volume (both with NPF added)
    stylers:Curl Keeper, UFD Curly Magic, & Alba Botanicals Strong Hold Gel
    PT:CJ Repair Me

    mod CG since August 2010
  • pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    curlyserf
    Where can I buy the BRHG?
    Walmart sometimes has it. CVS and K-mart have it. Amazon.com has big bottles.
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    2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
    Cowash: Tresemme naturals
    Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
    Curl enhancer: FSG
    Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
    PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
    Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
  • justajesuschickjustajesuschick Posts: 1,657Registered Users
    I pout about not being more than a 2a and then when I pull myself together and get over that, I:
    I'm 47. Straight hair until 6/2010. THANKS, thyroid!
    2b, medium-fine, normal-low porosity, medium density and elasticity
    CG since 7/1/2010

    Cleanse: Abba Color Protect
    Condition: DevaCurl OC
    LI: CJ-Deep Fix, Beauticurls LI
    Curl Enhancer: CHS Curl Keeper, KCCC
    Gel: Alba Strong Hold Gel, BRHG, Hugo Naturals Gel, SS FHG, CJPP
    Trying/Maybe: Ecostyler, CJRM
  • plunkybugplunkybug Posts: 2,526Registered Users
    Methods:

    Modified Super Soak for clumps
    Pixie Diffusing
    Smasters consistently awesome hair technique

    Products:

    Body Shop Cottonseed Curl Boost
    SS CEJ and FHG
    Curls for Target Goddess Curl Gel
    HEBE

    I find it is more the methods and less the products, but I've listed some I've had success with. I agree the clumps help as they add definition. I also find that getting the water out as much as possible with diffusing helps as the less water in my hair, the less the curls get weighed down and the less potential for frizz. The smasters method seems to seal in the curls a bit more.


    Lady Caiside, Noble Lushetarian and Wavy Wayfarer of Mugglswick, in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

    2b-3a Fii, porous and low elasticity

    Currently using a variety of products, and looking for that magic combo

    Hair bio: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showpost.php?p=1252125&postcount=59

  • curlysue21curlysue21 Posts: 5,219Registered Users
    I just started using LALSG and found it to give me much more curl/wave than usual. Ecostyler and CJ stuff and SSM seem to give me more clumps. I take frizz control and big barrel curl/waves over tighter curls though.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]2b/c, medium/high porosity, medium/coarse texture
    Current HG: Kinky Curly errythang, GVPCB, LALSG

    "I will never be the woman with perfect hair, who can wear white and not spill on it."

  • asianrunnerasianrunner Posts: 2,251Registered Users
    methods:
    icequeen
    plopping

    products:
    BRHG
    Darcy's coiling gelly
    Donna Marie Curling gelly
    Yes to Cukes conditioner

    Since it's been cooler here lately I seem to have settled in a routine. Icequeen with Yes to Cukes. Scrunch out water upside down, scrunch in my gelly of choice for the day. Plop for about 5-10 mins, scrunch in BRHG, then plop for another 5-10 mins. Hair looks a little producty until it dries but I'm ok with that.

    Regular PT+DTs are critical for me as well. My fav combo is CJ Curl Rehab and CJ Curl Fix!
    Coarse texture, normal-high porosity, normal elasticity (Komaza Care), very weak waves
    cleanser: Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix

    rinse out: GVP Conditioning Balm, CJ Beauticurls, CJ Smoothing

    jellies/creams: CR Curl Maker, KCCC
    gels: CJ CQ, CJ Pattern Pusha, BRHG

  • wavynwild16wavynwild16 Posts: 2,121Registered Users
    This thread is definitely for me! I will be watching it closely, because I am looking for some new techniques to bump up my curls. :toothy10:

    My fav methods:


    Plopping -- my hair loves this. It encourages my waves AND dries them at the same time! (Loving the clumps it gives.)

    Super Soaker Method -- I have my own modified method. I don't have a leave-in condish (currently looking for one. Any suggestions are more than welcome!), so I just come out of the shower, comb my hair as minimally as possible to get my part right, and go to the sink to scrunch in palmfuls of water. Works so well! The water and scrunching makes my waves appear right away, which is kind of hard to do when my thick hair is soaking wet.

    I am going to try the Icequeen Method again. I tried it once, but I am positive I didn't do it right, so I didn't see any difference in my hair. (I don't know if it's just me, but why would you scrunch your hair when it's soaked with water? Wouldn't the weight of it just pull your hair down, working against the scrunching? If someone could explain this, I would very much appreciate it!)
    I would also like to try the wet pineapple. Sounds logical -- no weight on your curls = springy spirals!

    So many possibilities! Can't wait to hear the other responses. :happy10:
    Type 2c/3a with lots of hair and a super sensitive scalp! Med/slightly coarse texture, low porosity and elasticity.

    Favorite...
    Low poo: Organix TTM, Essential Wholesale Free & Clean
    RO/LI: TN, GFTN, YTC
    Stylers: EcoStylers, GF Curl Shaping Gel, Aussie Aussome Volume Mousse & Instant Freeze Gel, GFPC, LALNC, La Bella Lots of Curls, Apricot Oil, KMFUM, AO B5DG
    Extras: sugar scrubs, AVG washes, pre-poos with EVCO, oiling scalp before washes, plopping, gelatin PT.
    Mod-CG since 12/1/10! :happy7:
  • IAgirlIAgirl Posts: 2,540Registered Users
    For clarification: would you define "weak wave pattern?" Does that mean hair that doesn't make waves or curls without application of particular techniques/styling products (or both) or does it means hair that (has) waves, but doesn't curl?

    Or does it mean a quiet summer afternoon on the beach, with the weak waves lapping softly on the sandy shore... 'Cause I sure know how I would deal with THAT!
  • pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    By weak wave pattern, I mean hair that has waves that need encouragement to be wavy. Without encouragement, it can often end up almost straight. Many wavies with a weak wave pattern question whether or not their hair is really wavy. See this thread:
    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?t=106864
    A strong wave pattern could be a strong 2a pattern. If you have a strong wave pattern, your hair is hard to straighten. It will dry with the same wave pattern without the clever use of products and techniques (but might have frizz or other issues).
    I hope that makes sense.
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    2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
    Cowash: Tresemme naturals
    Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
    Curl enhancer: FSG
    Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
    PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
    Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
  • curlywurlygurlycurlywurlygurly Posts: 1,180Registered Users
    Thanks for starting this ped.. I definately have a weak wave pattern. More so the top layers then the bottom (the bottom has a mind of it's own - even if I blow dry straight it'll kink up *shrugs*)

    I'm still fiddling with different techniques and products but here's a few I've liked lately

    products:
    re:coil
    KCCC - makes my s's more spiral, have to be careful it's a very amount dependent product; too much and yuck to little and fluffy!

    techniques -
    ice queen; a little difficult with the short back I have atm but I did see a difference
    smaster; helped decrease frizz
    pixie diffusing; less water to pull waves down, helps to set them
    culisto product application; helped to created more even wave pattern, but excessive product made hair 'dirty'/ gunky faster!

    That's all I have for now. Will be checking in on others suggestions.
    2 something Australian :toothy4:

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    Aiming to grow hair to waist from buzz cut - slowly but surely.
  • curlyserfcurlyserf Posts: 858Registered Users
    Of course I had to run out and buy a small bottle of BRHG to try! I've heard so many great things about it, so I'm looking forward to using it in the morning.

    Kerri
    2?/3a ??? ; fine; high density; normal porosity and elasticity
    color treated

    CURRENTLY USING:
    cleanse:Organix Vanilla Silk, Use Me Cleansing Cream
    rinse out/li:Ion Effective Care, Tresseme Naturals Radiant Volume (both with NPF added)
    stylers:Curl Keeper, UFD Curly Magic, & Alba Botanicals Strong Hold Gel
    PT:CJ Repair Me

    mod CG since August 2010
  • justajesuschickjustajesuschick Posts: 1,657Registered Users
    curlyserf wrote: »
    Of course I had to run out and buy a small bottle of BRHG to try! I've heard so many great things about it, so I'm looking forward to using it in the morning.

    Now, most of us (Pedaheh is an exception to this MOST of us crowd!!!) use just a couple of pea sized blobs on top of something else. Since I am wavy versus curly, if I use too much my waves get stringy and still look wet even after dried and scrunched out. The right amount and I have waves that look like curls!!
    Oh, and sometimes I will even water down my peas of BRHG since it is a globby, thick product.
    Let us know how you do!
    I'm 47. Straight hair until 6/2010. THANKS, thyroid!
    2b, medium-fine, normal-low porosity, medium density and elasticity
    CG since 7/1/2010

    Cleanse: Abba Color Protect
    Condition: DevaCurl OC
    LI: CJ-Deep Fix, Beauticurls LI
    Curl Enhancer: CHS Curl Keeper, KCCC
    Gel: Alba Strong Hold Gel, BRHG, Hugo Naturals Gel, SS FHG, CJPP
    Trying/Maybe: Ecostyler, CJRM
  • curlyserfcurlyserf Posts: 858Registered Users
    curlyserf wrote: »
    Of course I had to run out and buy a small bottle of BRHG to try! I've heard so many great things about it, so I'm looking forward to using it in the morning.

    Now, most of us (Pedaheh is an exception to this MOST of us crowd!!!) use just a couple of pea sized blobs on top of something else. Since I am wavy versus curly, if I use too much my waves get stringy and still look wet even after dried and scrunched out. The right amount and I have waves that look like curls!!
    Oh, and sometimes I will even water down my peas of BRHG since it is a globby, thick product.
    Let us know how you do!

    I put JCRR and Pantene Pro-V curl shaping gel on soaking wet hair, then scrunch with a microfiber towel. I have been scrunching in a little more gel after that. I was planning on using the BRHG instead of more Pantene Gel. Does that sound like a good routine? I'm so tired of having the almost ringlets I get from RR falling to loose waves by mid-afternoon! I also ordered some JCCC to try instead of the Pantene since the RR seems to work well for me.

    OK - I admit it. I'm a product junkie!:toothy7:

    Kerri
    2?/3a ??? ; fine; high density; normal porosity and elasticity
    color treated

    CURRENTLY USING:
    cleanse:Organix Vanilla Silk, Use Me Cleansing Cream
    rinse out/li:Ion Effective Care, Tresseme Naturals Radiant Volume (both with NPF added)
    stylers:Curl Keeper, UFD Curly Magic, & Alba Botanicals Strong Hold Gel
    PT:CJ Repair Me

    mod CG since August 2010
  • asianrunnerasianrunner Posts: 2,251Registered Users
    Now, most of us (Pedaheh is an exception to this MOST of us crowd!!!) use just a couple of pea sized blobs on top of something else. Since I am wavy versus curly, if I use too much my waves get stringy and still look wet even after dried and scrunched out. The right amount and I have waves that look like curls!!
    Oh, and sometimes I will even water down my peas of BRHG since it is a globby, thick product.
    Let us know how you do!

    lol pedaheh and myself are the exceptions! I use a three good sized globs for my hair. One glob for each side and one for the back.
    Coarse texture, normal-high porosity, normal elasticity (Komaza Care), very weak waves
    cleanser: Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix

    rinse out: GVP Conditioning Balm, CJ Beauticurls, CJ Smoothing

    jellies/creams: CR Curl Maker, KCCC
    gels: CJ CQ, CJ Pattern Pusha, BRHG

  • asianrunnerasianrunner Posts: 2,251Registered Users
    curlyserf wrote: »
    I put JCRR and Pantene Pro-V curl shaping gel on soaking wet hair, then scrunch with a microfiber towel. I have been scrunching in a little more gel after that. I was planning on using the BRHG instead of more Pantene Gel. Does that sound like a good routine? I'm so tired of having the almost ringlets I get from RR falling to loose waves by mid-afternoon! I also ordered some JCCC to try instead of the Pantene since the RR seems to work well for me.

    OK - I admit it. I'm a product junkie!:toothy7:

    Sounds good to me! Another good hard holding gel for me is HESMU. It's a little stickier though and I get a tiny bit of frizz due to the sticky factor. But I like to rotate products so my hair doesn't become totally used to one thing if you KWIM?
    Coarse texture, normal-high porosity, normal elasticity (Komaza Care), very weak waves
    cleanser: Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix

    rinse out: GVP Conditioning Balm, CJ Beauticurls, CJ Smoothing

    jellies/creams: CR Curl Maker, KCCC
    gels: CJ CQ, CJ Pattern Pusha, BRHG

  • finaleofseemfinaleofseem Posts: 900Registered Users
    Methods: Icequeen (no cold rinse, though), and pixiecurl diffusing. I've got to do both to get my best waves going.

    Products: Regular PTs and Ecostyler Krystal.
    Location: West Virginia (Eastern Panhandle)
    2b/cMii, medium-high porosity

    Likes protein and most oils, HATES mineral oil
    Summer Routine
    Poo: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture
    Cowash CJ Daily Fix
    Rinse out: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture
    Leave In: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture, SSRPT
    Stylers: Ecostyler Krystal, LALSG (in really high dews)
    PT: SS Repairing Protein Treatment
  • SaroyanSaroyan Posts: 398Registered Users
    My wave pattern is strong at the hairline, right around my face, but weak everywhere else.

    methods: icequeen, plopping
    products:
    SS RPT, SS CEJ, homemade FSG, Ecostyler
    2a, very fine, very thick, protein-loving, not especially porous. cg since july 2010.

    cleanse: cj daily fix, vo5 vanilla mint tea
    condition: marie dean anything, db pumpkin seed, cj curl assurance, cj beauticurls
    style: cj beauticurls leave-in, cj curl queen, cj cccc lite, kccc, homemade fsg, db coconut & hibiscus oil, ecostyler
    treatments: ss repairing protein, ss deeply decadent
    techniques: icequeen, plopping, scrunching upside down, pixie diffusing
  • NorthCoastLadyNorthCoastLady Posts: 230Registered Users
    I mostly have a strong wave pattern with a few weak pieces along my sides and back. What I've been experimenting with is taking "twisting" the lock and wrapping it around my finger.I've been getting the best results from that if I do it after I apply product. But it's tricky... play with it too much and you get a frizz, do the Supersoaker on it and you risk unraveling the twist. It's still a work-in-progress, lol. Sorry I don't have more ideas! Plopping and airdrying seem to work just fine for me, generally.
    2a in the front/sides, 2b in the back.
    Highly porous, dry, fine, low elasticity
    Currently experimenting- I'm on a mission to eventually use all homemade products for my hair!
    CG since July '10.
    co-wash with White Rain Energizing Citrus
    Using coconut oil on ends nightly
    styling with aloe vera gel
    DT once a week with mayo, egg, olive oil.
    Focusing on scalp and hair health first, then length.
  • curlyserfcurlyserf Posts: 858Registered Users
    curlyserf wrote: »
    I put JCRR and Pantene Pro-V curl shaping gel on soaking wet hair, then scrunch with a microfiber towel. I have been scrunching in a little more gel after that. I was planning on using the BRHG instead of more Pantene Gel. Does that sound like a good routine? I'm so tired of having the almost ringlets I get from RR falling to loose waves by mid-afternoon! I also ordered some JCCC to try instead of the Pantene since the RR seems to work well for me.

    OK - I admit it. I'm a product junkie!:toothy7:

    Sounds good to me! Another good hard holding gel for me is HESMU. It's a little stickier though and I get a tiny bit of frizz due to the sticky factor. But I like to rotate products so my hair doesn't become totally used to one thing if you KWIM?

    Used a couple pea-sized globs to finish this morning. It's crunchy right now, but still needs to dry some more. Does anyone use any product when they SOTC? How about anything to seal?

    Kerri
    2?/3a ??? ; fine; high density; normal porosity and elasticity
    color treated

    CURRENTLY USING:
    cleanse:Organix Vanilla Silk, Use Me Cleansing Cream
    rinse out/li:Ion Effective Care, Tresseme Naturals Radiant Volume (both with NPF added)
    stylers:Curl Keeper, UFD Curly Magic, & Alba Botanicals Strong Hold Gel
    PT:CJ Repair Me

    mod CG since August 2010
  • OnduleeOndulee Posts: 1,264Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    method/product: apply two pumps of AG: recoil to soaking wet hair, distribute well. Plop for 5 minutes;

    Method/product: then apply Curly Hair Solutions [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curly-Hair-Solutions-Curl-Keeper-p-28.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=curly-hair-solutions-curl-keeper]Curl Keeper[/buylink](2 big palmfuls). Scrunch in upside down, keep scrunching till you think you're done then scrunch some more.

    Methods: Plop for ten more minutes to remove excess product.

    then pixie diffuse upside down for 3-5 minutes, concentrating on the crown area and the back of head. This gets the roots dryer quicker which is key to getting root lift. Also,for [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curly-Hair-Solutions-Curl-Keeper-p-28.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=curly-hair-solutions-curl-keeper]Curl Keeper[/buylink] to work the best,the less movement that occurs during the first 15 minutes, the more control you will have over the frizz.

    Then let the rest airdry. It will be hard and crunchy and wet looking. I then do a preliminary scrunch out of the crunch when hair is probably 70% dry. Gently! to avoid stirring up frizz.

    At 100% dry, I do another upside down scrunch to soften up the coils that are still crunchy. Then I insert my fingers through to my scalp and rub my roots gently in tiny circles to remove the crunch from my roots. Then gently flip head upright again and arrange any coils that flip in the wrong place.

    that's it! Sounds way more complicated and drawn out than it is....
    shoulder length inverted bob; fine; 3A-3B; med-thick density; normal porosity; normal elasticity- my hair loves keratin, ACV, silk protein ,Curlkeeper and AG:Recoil ; seems to hate moisturizing products and oils except mineral oil; CG- Jan/'09-mod CG Sept/'09;CG again Jan/'10/mod CG from Mar'10

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  • pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users
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    2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
    Cowash: Tresemme naturals
    Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
    Curl enhancer: FSG
    Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
    PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
    Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
  • WurlyLoxWurlyLox Posts: 4,858Registered Users

    ACV after each cleanse


    Unless you only cleanse once a week, you're probably doing ACV rinses too often - no more than once a week is what's recommended. More than that can be drying. See www.livecurlylivefree.com for more info.


    Methods I use every time I wash:
    • Modified Super Soaker (w/spray bottle in bedroom, not at the sink)
    • Brief upside down diffusing (too lazy to pixie, LOL) then
    • Smasters (though rarely w/KCCC)
    • A moment's more USD diffusing
    • Clip the top w/duckbill or mini jaw clips OR
    • Clip top and upper layers w/several CHS roller clamps (I've finally come to like them)
    • Air dry till bone dry then
    • SOTC as Ondulee described
    Products: See signature below
    2C/3A/3B - modified CG - fairly fine now, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

    Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

    HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

    www.fotki.com/auntnett
  • justajesuschickjustajesuschick Posts: 1,657Registered Users
    auntnett wrote: »

    ACV after each cleanse


    Unless you only cleanse once a week, you're probably doing ACV rinses too often - no more than once a week is what's recommended. More than that can be drying. See www.livecurlylivefree.com for more info.

    I know. You would think so but my hair is NEVER dry. I cleanse 3x/week. I cannot use DTs, leave ins and can only use a tiny bit of conditioner just on my ends when I cleanse. Anything else weighs my hair down. Many styling products OC my hair as well. I have said before, and it really is true, my hair has the texture and consistency of a small child's hair!
    I'm 47. Straight hair until 6/2010. THANKS, thyroid!
    2b, medium-fine, normal-low porosity, medium density and elasticity
    CG since 7/1/2010

    Cleanse: Abba Color Protect
    Condition: DevaCurl OC
    LI: CJ-Deep Fix, Beauticurls LI
    Curl Enhancer: CHS Curl Keeper, KCCC
    Gel: Alba Strong Hold Gel, BRHG, Hugo Naturals Gel, SS FHG, CJPP
    Trying/Maybe: Ecostyler, CJRM
  • curlywurlygurlycurlywurlygurly Posts: 1,180Registered Users
    pedaheh wrote: »

    yep, that's the one. I've watched it a million times and this is the first time i actually tried it (of course with the product i had not there's )Waves were more consistent but my hair got 'gunky' too fast for my liking. May try again with less product.

    As a side question... do any of you with weak wave patterns ever get frustrated or fed up with your hair? I'm struggling atm as I haven't found a real 'go to' routine with my hair (new cut, let alone...still trying to figure my hair out since buzz cut!). Although I love my hair when I get it right, I miss the simple days of wash n go (wasn't a large period in my life but i remember it!). I just wish there was one product or one method that would really enhance my waves instead of having to do and/or put in a million things in my hair. I guess i'm frustrated more atm as I've been having more 'bad' hair days then good of late. Plus I'm going to be traveling in a month or so time and was really hoping to downsize and tweak my routine for then *sigh* I've been even contemplating going back to non -cg products.
    2 something Australian :toothy4:

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    Aiming to grow hair to waist from buzz cut - slowly but surely.
  • heidiheidi Posts: 243Registered Users
    curlyserf wrote: »
    Where can I buy the BRHG?

    I saw it at Rite-Aid last week in a two-for-the-price-of-one pack. I was tempted to buy it based on all the talk here but decided (after putting it in my basket twice) to pass.
    Medium-fine Texture, Normal Porosity, Normal Elasticity, Thick Density
    Co-wash: Renpure Body&Shine
    RO: Kenra Moisturizing Conditioner
    LI/Curl Enhancer: Kenra Moisturizing Conditioner
    Other: I'll add a little AG Mousse Gel if I want something extra.
  • curlyserfcurlyserf Posts: 858Registered Users
    heidi wrote: »
    curlyserf wrote: »
    Where can I buy the BRHG?

    I saw it at Rite-Aid last week in a two-for-the-price-of-one pack. I was tempted to buy it based on all the talk here but decided (after putting it in my basket twice) to pass.

    Thanks! It seems to be working well for me, so when my little bottle runs out, I'll try some other sources for a larger size at a better price!

    Kerri
    2?/3a ??? ; fine; high density; normal porosity and elasticity
    color treated

    CURRENTLY USING:
    cleanse:Organix Vanilla Silk, Use Me Cleansing Cream
    rinse out/li:Ion Effective Care, Tresseme Naturals Radiant Volume (both with NPF added)
    stylers:Curl Keeper, UFD Curly Magic, & Alba Botanicals Strong Hold Gel
    PT:CJ Repair Me

    mod CG since August 2010
  • yuhwooyuhwoo Posts: 25Registered Users
    I've only been cg since May, so I don't know if things will change in the cooler months. What works best for me now is:

    Co-wash or low poo & rinse out (no leave in)
    Modified super soaker w/[buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Curl-Junkie-CoffeeCoco-Curl-Creme-p-488.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=curl-junkie-coffeecoco-curl-creme]CJ CCCC[/buylink] (I do it upside down with the tub faucet)
    Apply SS FHG and scrunch
    Scrunch excess water out with CLU cloth
    Plop (about 5-10 minutes)
    Pixie diffuse (this makes the most difference for me), mostly upside down and head dipped sideways

    If I want stronger curls and hold throughout the day, and feel like dealing with SOTC, then I scrunch in more gel after about 50% dry (smasters method) and diffuse some more. This last step definitely gives me the most wave/curl definition.
    2a/b, medium texture/porosity/thickness
    currently using:
    co-wash or ro:
    sonoma soap company daily co, tj tea tree tingle, aogbp
    stylers: cj cccc, ssfhg
    pre-poo w/coconut oil 1x/wk

  • GirlSailorGirlSailor Posts: 45Registered Users
    My hair loves BRHG, [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Kinky-Curly-Curling-Custard-p-778.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=kinkycurly-curling-custard]KCCC[/buylink] for gels. It likes a good low poo twice a week. I get great clumps if I plop at least two hours or just overnight. I find if I plop overnight it dries super fast in the morning and I just reapply a bit more gel to it while it is damp in the morning.

    My hair LOVES the Desert Essence's Italian Grape shampoo and cond.

    Definitely blotting with a flour sack towel after the Ice Queen Method of super soaking...or even not super soaking but just blotting residual water out before applying gel helps take up the weight of my long hair.

    Duck Bill Clips and even the bigger clips that hair dressers use to pin up hair as they cut it help giving me root lift and take the weight off my hair so the clumps and waves can form and dry.

    Those are some of the tricks I have learned my waves like...
  • MoiraIndigoMoiraIndigo Posts: 21Registered Users
    Well, I'm still pretty new to this, but so far scrunching in Ecostyler and plopping really help my weakish waves. I'm not sure I'm happy with the look, yet. I might have to reduce the amount of product I'm using, or I might abandon clumping altogether in favor of volume.
    As a side question... do any of you with weak wave patterns ever get frustrated or fed up with your hair? I'm struggling atm as I haven't found a real 'go to' routine with my hair (new cut, let alone...still trying to figure my hair out since buzz cut!). Although I love my hair when I get it right, I miss the simple days of wash n go (wasn't a large period in my life but i remember it!). I just wish there was one product or one method that would really enhance my waves instead of having to do and/or put in a million things in my hair. I guess i'm frustrated more atm as I've been having more 'bad' hair days then good of late. Plus I'm going to be traveling in a month or so time and was really hoping to downsize and tweak my routine for then *sigh* I've been even contemplating going back to non -cg products.
    I totally sympathize. I'm willing to spend a bit more energy in the shower, but I HATE blow-drying and won't spend a lot of time doing my hair. It's the whole reason I'm here at all. I was sick of trying to beat my hair into submission with a blow-dryer, and thought it would be a lot easier to find the right products to wash/condition it with, then stick in some wave-enhancement/frizz reduction product, and go. Unfortunately, I have a lot of damage that I have to repair, and the repeated PTs/DTs are going to get old very quickly.

    I don't think I'll ever go much further than squishing in my LI and Ecostyler and plopping for a few minutes while I put a minimum amount of makeup on and get dressed. Even waiting for it to dry before I can SOTC, and having to deal with the hard-wet look while dropping my lil' girl off at preschool, is annoying.
    2aM/Fii
    Medium texture with some fine mixed in, high porosity, lowish elasticity, normal thickness, comfy dewpoints, short hair, weak wave pattern.
    Brand new to Naturally Curly
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