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Have you changed the way you shape your eyebrows in your 40s and beyond?

CurlswirlCurlswirl Posts: 526Registered Users
I went to a eyebrow shaping specialist who is supposedly the best in the business and he said in one's 40s and beyond you need to get more lift of the brow. He in turn plucked my brows really thin (I needed pencil for a while) to get lift and I thought he left them a little short. Most of the hairs have grown back (except some in the front) since he plucked and trimmed my brows but I think I prefer my brows thicker with a little less lift and a little more length but I still do keep the arch.

How do you groom your brows now compared to before you reached 40 and beyond?

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  • StarmieStarmie Posts: 6,677Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    I think I'm pretty limited with what I can do with my eyebrows so haven't changed them in forever. They're quite high, arched, sparse and the outer half is a little on the curly side. So long as they're plucked neatly and have gel on to keep them under control I'm not going to worry or think too much about them.
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  • alacurlalacurl Posts: 1,193Registered Users
    Some "expert" said thin brows can be aging. But it probably depends on the person.

    My brows are pale blond and barely show up, so no need to thin. And I haven't been able to find a pencil or powder that is not too dark. So no need to "lift" them, either. Ack.

    Anyone know of a light-colored pencil or powder for light-light brows?
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  • caramix3acaramix3a Posts: 460Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Since I have naturally somewhat thicker brows that I personally like, I've never gone near one of these experts to have mine "shaped". They can say all they want about having a brow shaping done can really improve things, but beyond just cleaning up some stray hairs and neatening things up according to the natural brow shape, a lot of these shaping jobs that one sees on celebrities and models tends to remove natural character from their faces, making them look like generically-well-groomed faces. As far as the lifting effect that that guy mentions, maybe just a little bit taken from the bottom of the brows, but no more - otherwise too thin! What is with trying to make everyone look the same anyway?
    With that said, I just do my own and they look fine to me. I do fill in the outer parts of brows with a medium-brown brow powder, as brows tend to thin on the outside part with age. I apply it with one of those little angled brushes and smudge it a little - looks very natural.
  • jeepcurlygurljeepcurlygurl Posts: 19,238Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    I've always plucked my own brows (and when looking at pics from my younger days, I wish I would have done it alot sooner! Bushy!).
    Haven't really changed them in years. They are medium thickness, arched. I think they suit me.
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  • QVCDivaQVCDiva Posts: 1,329Registered Users
    I get mine waxed. They are probably medium thickness. I don't like then brows. They don't look good on me. Never have.
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  • alacurlalacurl Posts: 1,193Registered Users
    shoulder-length 3a/b, depending on weather and products (or lack of products!)
  • LotsawavesLotsawaves Posts: 8,660Registered Users
    This thread reminds me of a woman I use to work with. She was in her middle 60's. She shaved her eyebrows and would draw fake ones on above them. It was so obvious. It looked ridiculous. I felt sorry for her.

    My eyebrows have always been the same. I've been blessed with my Mom's. They have a nice natural arch. I rarely have to pluck them. The hair just doesn't grow there much. They just stay the same.
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  • FrizzBgoneFrizzBgone Posts: 2,678Registered Users
    I don't like really thin or drawn-on eye brows. My understanding is that your eyebrows frame your face. If your eye brows are too thin, they can make your eyes look smaller and your face doesn't look balanced. IMO.

    Mine have gotten thinner the older I have gotten. I am very thankful that I didn't over pluck them when I was younger, because they'd be non-existant now.
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  • 2poodles2poodles Posts: 2,480Registered Users
    I have a nice natural arch to my brows, IMHO. I just pluck the strays underneath to keep it neat. The only change since I entered my 40's is that I now use a brow powder since my outer lashes are lighter and sparser. I use this:
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  • SpiralliSpiralli Posts: 3,654Registered Users Curl Dabbler
    Last year I stopped getting my brows waxed and started getting them threaded. Huge difference in the shape of my brows -- threading helps them look more natural in overall shape and arch. It took several threading visits to undo/grow in from blob look of my my brows from waxing. I am thankful that I have enough brow hair to still need threading at 3-week intervals for shaping and cleaning up the arch. Getting my brows in better shape, literally, has made a big difference with how my eyes look (no change to my eye makeup).
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  • Robin-in-FLRobin-in-FL Posts: 1,731Registered Users
    Last time mine were shaped was at a pedicure, the lady asked "would you like your brows waxed?" and I thought, well, haven't plucked 'em lately, why not? So I answered "yes, please but CLEAN UP ONLY, NOT SKINNY". Well I guess her idea of skinny was different from mine; they were skinny, hardly anything on the outer half. To me too skinny looks too old - not Bad, exactly, and does probably make my eyes look a little better; but just too stark for anyone not very smooth & tight, like black cat-eye liquid eyeliner.

    But really I don't shape mine much 'cause I plucked for so long and then some hair loss so they don't really grow in as much as I want to begin with.

    Ideally, what I'd like is pretty close to what I liked when younger most of the time - I'd just want them a little higher up and extending farther out on the edges than what they do naturally. But I was never a skinny brow person (except for costumes, I'd occasionally shave them off and draw them very dramatic for heavy makeup but not as an everyday look.)
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  • curlyinohiocurlyinohio Posts: 362Registered Users
    As I read this thread, I am so envious, cos I don't HAVE any eyebrows!! My thyroid bottomed out a few years ago, and I lost my eyebrows, most of my lashes, and half my hair. It was very traumatic for me. After getting my meds straightened around, my hair and lashes grew back (somewhat), but my eyebrows never did. I draw them on every day. Fortunately, I am an artist, and I draw them just as if I'm doing a portrait, and they don't look bad, but the thing is, I'm afraid to go swimming, or spend the night with friends, or anything that would cause me to be "caught" without eyebrows! Count yourselves lucky, ladies!
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  • curlypearlcurlypearl Posts: 11,970Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    As I read this thread, I am so envious, cos I don't HAVE any eyebrows!! My thyroid bottomed out a few years ago, and I lost my eyebrows, most of my lashes, and half my hair. It was very traumatic for me. After getting my meds straightened around, my hair and lashes grew back (somewhat), but my eyebrows never did. I draw them on every day. Fortunately, I am an artist, and I draw them just as if I'm doing a portrait, and they don't look bad, but the thing is, I'm afraid to go swimming, or spend the night with friends, or anything that would cause me to be "caught" without eyebrows! Count yourselves lucky, ladies!

    CurlyinOhio I have exactly the same situation! I lost my eyebrows completely. Then I had them tattooed on but the lady who did the tattoing made them very extreme looking. Much too thin and arched. Fortunately, that faded over time. I paint mine on every day. I use a Cllinique pencil mixed with a Vincent Longo pencil. I feel your pain!
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  • curlyinohiocurlyinohio Posts: 362Registered Users
    That's exactly why I'm scared to do the tattoo thing! I looked at some websites of different people who do tattooing, (or "permanent makeup" as it's also called) and they just looked awful. They were SO dark, and they went way above the natural arch. I mean, you could see where the natural eyebrows would be, and they went above that, plus looked a little "witchy" IMHO. I'd rather take the extra time every morning than risk looking like that.
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  • cleanteeth68cleanteeth68 Posts: 49Registered Users
    I always get mine threaded now.. never waxed. It makes for a much more even and prettier arch! And the thicker the better:) Scarce=Old!
  • MaloryMalory Posts: 379Registered Users
    I disagree with the OP's "eyebrow specialist". I think very thin eyebrows are extremely ageing. It just looks like you are losing your eyebrow hair and trying to cover it up by shaping it. (Kind of like men with thinning hair who do a combover.) I think naturally thin eyebrows can look OK if you just let them grow naturally.

    Actually, I think that doing anything to yourself that looks oviously artificial - dark mascara or eyeliner, opaque lipstick, lots of hair product, obviously fake hair colour, etc. - is very ageing.

    Thin eyebrows can look OK on women in their 20s who have perfect features and can get away with a dramatic look.

    I have thick, bushy black eyebrows and I have them shaped and thinned out a little by threading, but not thinned too much. Actually, I don't have a lot of money or time to do it very often, so I usually just let them grow out and try to keep them somewhat decent by plucking some of the excess hairs in between waxings. I think a natural look is best, especially for women who are getting older.
  • curlypearlcurlypearl Posts: 11,970Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    That's exactly why I'm scared to do the tattoo thing! I looked at some websites of different people who do tattooing, (or "permanent makeup" as it's also called) and they just looked awful. They were SO dark, and they went way above the natural arch. I mean, you could see where the natural eyebrows would be, and they went above that, plus looked a little "witchy" IMHO. I'd rather take the extra time every morning than risk looking like that.

    Yes. I strongly recommend avoiding tattooing completely. It's not worth it at all, even if you have no eyebrows as was my situation after losing them. Someone at the Clarins counter told me Bobbi Brown makes a good pencil - I'll be checking this since it's unusual for a brand to recommend the competition.
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  • Curlee'smomCurlee'smom Posts: 81Registered Users
    I don't know whether to laugh or cry over this thread.

    I'm blond and have never had too much brow. I've never plucked or tweezed. My mother never did and I never knew EVERYONE does this. Of course, while my mom had brows, she had the world's tiniest lashes plus she was a pale redhead. She penciled her brows, but I have no recollection of her tweezing. Thankfully I've worn glasses all of my life so it was kind of pointless to pay attention...and I'm not a hairy kind of girl.

    I know a girl who is a SAHM, but went to Aveda. She does all kinds of things for my girls. They babysit and she does free color, cuts, or waxes for them. She taught them how to wax so now they have their own thing to wax with. My oldest has the hairy lip which did NOT come from me.

    Anyway, I presently have half brows due to thyroid disease. :? I heard that once they're gone, they're gone. Lucky me... I had a major hair issue a few months back, but am once again getting back to normal. My half brows really bug me, but our stylist girl tells me it isn't noticeable because 1) it is blonde and 2) I wear glasses.
  • crystal tipscrystal tips Posts: 240Registered Users
    My brows have always been on the light side colourwise (although a tiny bit darker as I have aged). I had very full brows that met in the middle as I hit my teens, which I hated as the fashion in the 70's was for thin, plucked to death brows! My best girlfriend obligingly did the deed and plucked my brows until they conformed to the trend! I kept them like that for a few years and then started to grow them back. Sadly, they never did grow back completely. Those pre-plucked brows of my teens were, if I think back, great (apart from the 'middle' growth which is easily sorted!). I get them threaded now, around every 4-6 weeks or so and keep them as full as possible. Def think med-med thick looks more youthful. Re an 'arch' - if one has a natural arch to the brow then keeping that is great but if no natural arch, then IMHO best not to create one. I think keeping one's own natural shape as much as poss looks the most natural and youthful!
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  • RacerWife7RacerWife7 Posts: 890Registered Users
    My thyroid used to be really messed up (from taking stinkin' Synthroid or Levoxyl for 20 years - CRAP). Since finding out about natural thyroid and being on it for 3 years (or is it 4 now???), my brows have started to grow back. Only the outer 1/2 was super sparse, almost to the point of non-existence. I actually HAVE outer brows now. :) But, I've never had to tweeze much before or after thyroid issues. Just a little bit. So, as for shape?... nah. They haven't changed much. And I don't see myself changing them at this point, either. ;)
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