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Spin off thread: The wavy imposter, it is not just you.

pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users
This is a spin off from the "how do you apply your gel" thread.
http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?t=106812
Many of us were discussing how without product and styling our hair will revert to being nearly straight. We were also discussing how we felt like wavy imposters since our hair doesn't form waves without encouragement and how many of us didn't always consider our hair wavy.
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Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
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  • pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    oops
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpedaheh.blogspot.com%2F" class="Popup (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
    2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
    Cowash: Tresemme naturals
    Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
    Curl enhancer: FSG
    Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
    PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
    Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
  • pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by finaleofseem viewpost.gif Quote:
    Originally Posted by curlywurlygurly viewpost.gif Quote:
    Originally Posted by pedaheh viewpost.gif Me too. I have to either talk my hair into being straight or into being curly. Left to it's own devices, it's meh. That said, my curl pattern is much stronger since going CG.



    this is one of those - oh it's not just me moments. I've always felt a little... bit like an wavy/culy impostor. If I get anywhere near my hair with a hairdryer no diffuser, it'll dry almost straight, with a "body wave" like shape (my really straightie friend is envious of this, i hate it!) but if I scrunch and/or add product waves appear. I've always got those annoying "kiss curls" at my nape or around my temples especially on humid/ rainy days

    Now I don't feel so impostor-ish



    Add me to the "almost straight without product/technique" camp. That's why, until I was 20 or so, I thought I had straight hair with a little extra body.

    So, if you're all impostors, so am I. At least we're in good company. :icon_smile:




    I used to say "my hair is straight but has enough bend to be annoying." DUH RYMORG....bend is WURL......
    OK, I'll try this again.

    Sorry. I can't seem to get the quote to copy correctly. Click on the original thread to view it in a less confusing way.

    I thought I had the kind of straight hair that didn't dry straight and required some fixing. Duh Peda. Do you know what you call "the kind of straight hair that doesn't dry straight"? That would be wavy. I actually started the CG method to cope with my dry hair and split ends. I didn't think my hair was wavy. I'm nearing 40, so figuring this out at 20 makes you seem like a genius in comparison Finale. I don't know what I thought my pre CG hair was, but I wouldn't have called it wavy exactly. Now I lovingly call my pre CG hair "naturally fuzzy".

    I have a CG friend who calls her pre CG hair "naturally scraggly". She never really thought of her hair as wavy either.
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    Cowash: Tresemme naturals
    Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
    Curl enhancer: FSG
    Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
    PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
    Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
  • CheetaraCheetara Posts: 2,182Registered Users
    Yes! Me too! I had extremely short hair for so long that I had no idea it was wavy/curly until I started growing it out in 2007. In fact, when I'd get my monthly hair cut the stylist would ask if I have curly hair because I'd get a lot of volume. I'd always reply that I have straight hair and she'd be surprised.

    When I was a kid, I don't remember my hair having much of any texture at all.

    This was my hair in 2004-ish.

    cute-1.jpg
    Sort of CG sometimes, but not really
    2B, medium? normal porosity and elasticity?

    Cleansers -
    Suave Clarifying, Philosophy Happy Birthday Beautiful

    Stylers - BRHG, re:coil, Ion Hairspray

    I live in the NYC area.


  • wurly60wurly60 Posts: 11Registered Users
    I too have spent most of my life saying I had wave, but just enough to be annoying. I am older than most of you and just now working with the curl. For years my hairdresser kept discouraging me from working with the wave. Every summer I would be in hair hell, get all sweaty blowing it straight, walk outside and instant frizz! Working with the wave isn't perfect but it is definitely better.
  • AKgirlAKgirl Posts: 341Registered Users
    I think "naturally scraggly" would have been the perfect definition for my hair. I've always felt a little as an imposter too...I see other curlies whose hair naturally springs up without scrunching; my daughter's hair does this. But mine, I've got to really scrunch to get it to wave nicely, otherwise it looks "scraggly" like it really needs a good run with the flat iron, LOL! I do recall as a young child that if I would play out in the rain I would get little ringlets around my temples and my hair would wave by itself.

    I used to scrunch my hair and blow dry it "wavy" with some hair spray prior to my mod CG days, but it never looked as good as it does now. And my hair is sooo much healthier now!
    2a-2bFii NP?

    Low poo: Deva Low-Poo, Jessicurl GLS, Moroccanoil Volumizing Shampoo, Aveda Be Curly
    Condish: Cure Care, Redken Body Full, Deva One C, and Jessicurl Aloeba
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    Products: Deva FFVF & Jessicurl Spiralicious (LOVE), TRESemme Curl Boosting Mousse
    Hairspray: Aussie Sprunch, TRESemme Curl
    locking Spray
    Experimenting with lots of products in my cabinet...


    My hair loves protein, plopping, and diffusing! Trying to find a way to style and air dry.
  • pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    Help me test my most recent crackpot theory.
    My theory is that the "wavy imposter" requires a "grabby" leave in and styling products.

    This post explains it better then I will. Grabby vs. Slip.
    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?t=95392
    Grabby leave-ins and products feel kind of glue like and sticky. The pull your hair together into clumps.

    Products with slip make your hair easier to detangle. They tend to separate hair rather then pull it together. They feel slippery and slick.

    I definitely need grabby products. The two grabby products I love are ecostyler and BRHG.

    What is your vote?
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    Cowash: Tresemme naturals
    Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
    Curl enhancer: FSG
    Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
    PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
    Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
  • NaturalistaNaturalista Posts: 5,491Registered Users
    pedaheh wrote: »
    This is a spin off from the "how do you apply your gel" thread.
    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?t=106812
    Many of us were discussing how without product and styling our hair will revert to being nearly straight. We were also discussing how we felt like wavy imposters since our hair doesn't form waves without encouragement and how many of us didn't always consider our hair wavy.

    I know I'm not a wavy, but I don't think that because you need hold products that you're imposters. I need hold products to form my curls as well and its b/c like some of you guys, I'm not highly textured. When you have a stronger pattern you don't need as much to make it come through.

    Just cause you need more to make it come through, doesn't mean you aren't wavy. :) There are all sorts of degrees of texturization within any wave/curl spectrum.
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  • DoodlemommyDoodlemommy Posts: 26Registered Users
    This thread is so interesting. It also makes me feel better:love5: Scraggly would be a good word for what my hair looks like naturally. I knew that I had some wave, but I also don't have the know-how to do anything with it. I am slowly learning! I have spent a great many years with a mass of frizzy sitting on my shoulders...eek!
    My daughter was born with natural curls three years ago. I knew I had to learn more about curly hair so I could teach her to take care it. It started turning in my mind while reading all the tips on here that I can do something about my hair. I don't have to let it be fuzzy/frizzy and fight the straightening battle everyday. I am finally realizing it is okay to let it be wavy and that scrunching it does not mean that I don't have waves....they just have a mind of their own that needs a little loving and controlling!!
  • Maggie79Maggie79 Posts: 12Registered Users
    This is how I'm feeling right now. I'm brand new and am switching from daily straightning because of the insane fl humidity in the summer and my hairs frizz response. lol. But I am a bit overwhelmed and am wondering if it is worth it. I am wavy, not fine, but either a 2 or 3? I don't know. I'm working to try to figure out the right combo to get my waves to hold and its hard! I feel like I'm in 5th grade again, with no idea what to do with my hair when I just put it up every day and let it frizz.

    I still have no idea about porosity, proteins, or which products will actually work with my hair.
    ~Maggie

    New Curly Girl! About 3 weeks in with a few "restarts" because of accidently using cones

    I'm a 2-not sure which, M/C, ii, still figuring out porosity and products and a bunch of other stuff!

    Took first pics today: /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2FMaggie79%2F" class="Popup Password: curly
  • rymorg2rymorg2 Posts: 2,571Registered Users
    pedaheh wrote: »
    This is a spin off from the "how do you apply your gel" thread.
    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?t=106812
    Many of us were discussing how without product and styling our hair will revert to being nearly straight. We were also discussing how we felt like wavy imposters since our hair doesn't form waves without encouragement and how many of us didn't always consider our hair wavy.

    I know I'm not a wavy, but I don't think that because you need hold products that you're imposters. I need hold products to form my curls as well and its b/c like some of you guys, I'm not highly textured. When you have a stronger pattern you don't need as much to make it come through.

    Just cause you need more to make it come through, doesn't mean you aren't wavy. :) There are all sorts of degrees of texturization within any wave/curl spectrum.


    Oh this makes me feel better Naturalista, thanks!!! :D

    I call what I have "wurl" because I don't feel right calling it curl but it's more than wave. So dare I say it???? RYMORG2 HAS NATURALLY CURLY HAIR?????!!!!

    Omg that's so freeing!!!!! I feel like Freida on the Peanuts!!!!!:blob6:
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  • twister89twister89 Posts: 137Registered Users
    For me it's not about products but more about how much moisture is in my hair, and technique. If my hair has too much moisture in it (like from my rinse-out), it tends to dry much straighter and not hold a curl well. Also, the technique for drying it... if I just brush it out it'd dry straighter, but if I scrunch it, it will be wavier. Products can help make it more manageable, but for me moisture level in the hair and technique make the biggest difference.
  • finaleofseemfinaleofseem Posts: 900Registered Users
    pedaheh wrote: »
    Help me test my most recent crackpot theory.
    My theory is that the "wavy imposter" requires a "grabby" leave in and styling products.

    This post explains it better then I will. Grabby vs. Slip.
    http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showthread.php?t=95392
    Grabby leave-ins and products feel kind of glue like and sticky. The pull your hair together into clumps.

    Products with slip make your hair easier to detangle. They tend to separate hair rather then pull it together. They feel slippery and slick.

    I definitely need grabby products. The two grabby products I love are ecostyler and BRHG.

    What is your vote?
    Yes, yes, yes!

    As many of you know, I <3 me some Ecostyler Krystal. I need something sticky, or otherwise "grabby" in my stylers to get my hair to behave the way it does.

    Conversely, I love slip in my rinse out.
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    2b/cMii, medium-high porosity

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    Poo: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture
    Cowash CJ Daily Fix
    Rinse out: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture
    Leave In: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture, SSRPT
    Stylers: Ecostyler Krystal, LALSG (in really high dews)
    PT: SS Repairing Protein Treatment
  • emilylouiseemilylouise Posts: 93Registered Users
    Pedaheh, thanks for starting this thread! I had no idea everybody would relate to the passing comment I made on the gels thread. I'm glad you started this... now I don't have to feel like I took over the other topic!

    OH, you are SO RIGHT with the "grabby" products. I have known for awhile that the stickiest gels are best with me because they create the best clumps! Because my hair is dry, my hairdresser suggested I use curl-enhancing "creams". Dove has a cone-free one, so I bought it, but it really doesn't work. Haha I love how NC.com is way more helpful than an actual hair professional. Nobody knows your hair better than others with similar hair, right?
    Some conditioners are also better at creating clumps than others. Has anyone else tried Samy's naturals line?I got awesome clumps with that one! it's so thick and rich which I love because my hair is dry.

    I more-than-suspect that those of us who feel like "imposters" would also get very little curl with raking vs. scrunching? ALSO, does ice queen method really work on the rest of you guys? It's all in the scrunching, I'm telling you! :mrgreen:

    Also, what is ya'll's experience with messy buns? Personally, I'm a huge fan. I do them while I sleep because -- I'm guessing others will relate to this as well -- another reason I sometimes feel like an imposter is that my hair gets so much straighter if I sleep with it down! I also find that messy buns create waves in and of themselves, no product needed. I'm a lifeguard and if I teach a swimming lesson (so my hair is wet), have my hair in a messy bun, work for several more hours and then come home, my hair is quite wavy when I take it down. Lots wavier than if it dried down with no product!

    Sorry for the novel...if anyone else is relating to a lot of what I have to say, let me know because I would love a hair twin! :glasses8:
    BSL 2Cmiii :flower:
    normal/high porosity, normal elasticity.








  • asianrunnerasianrunner Posts: 2,251Registered Users
    Me, me! I have a very weak wave pattern. When it dries without any product, it poufs out from my head which I call "triangle head." I think this is mostly because I have tons and tons of hair!

    I remember a hair stylist (I just go to one of the cheap places) commenting on the fact that I have wavy hair and I was totally confused. The next time I went some place different and she said I "had the ability to be wavy." I like my hair wavy but it's a lot of work!
    Coarse texture, normal-high porosity, normal elasticity (Komaza Care), very weak waves
    cleanser: Redken Fresh Curls Shampoo, CJ Daily Fix

    rinse out: GVP Conditioning Balm, CJ Beauticurls, CJ Smoothing

    jellies/creams: CR Curl Maker, KCCC
    gels: CJ CQ, CJ Pattern Pusha, BRHG

  • wavy wonderwavy wonder Posts: 3,061Registered Users
    Cheetara wrote: »
    Yes! Me too! I had extremely short hair for so long that I had no idea it was wavy/curly until I started growing it out in 2007. In fact, when I'd get my monthly hair cut the stylist would ask if I have curly hair because I'd get a lot of volume. I'd always reply that I have straight hair and she'd be surprised.

    When I was a kid, I don't remember my hair having much of any texture at all.

    This was my hair in 2004-ish.

    cute-1.jpg
    this is exactly me. I've always had va-va-voom hair but didn't realize i was a wavy. Just thought it was , well, valoomanous (jeez I can't spell;)
  • pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    Posted by Maggie 79:
    I feel like I'm in 5th grade again, with no idea what to do with my hair when I just put it up every day and let it frizz.
    That's funny because I say the exact same thing. When you start CG you definitely feel like you are styling your hair at a 5th grade level. And, unlike the actual 5th grade, you are the only one styling at a 5th grade level.

    Posted by Emilylouise:
    I more-than-suspect that those of us who feel like "imposters" would also get very little curl with raking vs. scrunching? ALSO, does ice queen method really work on the rest of you guys? It's all in the scrunching, I'm telling you! :mrgreen:
    I absolutely vote scrunching and not raking. I do my own version of the icequeen method. Love the icequeen!
    I think scrunching and the icequeen method would have a high success rate for wavies with a weak curl pattern.
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    Cowash: Tresemme naturals
    Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
    Curl enhancer: FSG
    Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
    PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
    Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
  • curlywurlygurlycurlywurlygurly Posts: 1,180Registered Users
    Thanks pedaheh! This is a great thread :) makes me feel so much better. I can't believe so many people out there were/are in the same boat as me, i was oblivious. My hair has always had a mind of it's own, but I've always thought it was just thanks to my crazy cowlick.

    the "grabby" product idea seems to make sense. I've used products (leave in's) pre cg that were stickier and had hold, all i would do was spread some through when wet and let it air dry (my after diving- springboard routine) and i'd get some waves.

    I think also the fact that i sometimes feel like an curly impostor is that my hair is never really consistent, and others see it in all sorts of states. Right now I'm re-learning my hair and what it like as it grows out, so I'm experimenting a lot with mixed results. The different lengths all make a difference too.The other day I had done my hair the night before and gone to bed with it crunchy in hope it would hold up for an early start the next day. I woke up and it was all over the place but I didn't have time to worry about it, so I scrunch a little extra water put on a headband and left. To my surprise later when I caught a look I had spirals. Even one of my friends asked if I had curled it that day! Yet other days my hair will be lifeless and hardly wave at all.

    ok enough ramble from me :D
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  • rileysmama32208rileysmama32208 Posts: 69Registered Users
    i always used to call my hair "stupid-wavy" because it didn't wave "right" lol. As you can see in my fotki, its not stupid wavy, its actually wavy! However, my 3rd day hair, is like big body waves, not scrunchy waves, its much closer to straight.
    2b/iii/low porosity/ normal elasticity
    Currently loving:

    Cowash: suave coconut and suave mountain strawberry
    leave in: giovanni direct
    style: FOTE avg under bella super spikes gel (yellow) with a tiny dot of honey
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  • FroggiloreFroggilore Posts: 141Registered Users
    Scraggly! I love it. I also love Wurly. Definitely the best definition for my hair. I also have discovered I love "grabby" products. I just recently found BRHG and it's my new HG. And I'm also in love with the IceQueen method. I can't rake. It just pulls out my curl. It looks like I must go find some Ecosytler now. Good thing I have to go to Hobby Lobby anyway (which is right next door to Sally's!)
    Hair type: 2a/b, medium to fine texture, medium to high porosity (I think!)
    Routine: Occasionally wash with Lavender baby shampoo. CO wash with Garnier triple nutrition conditioner, use a nickel sized blob as a leave in, scrunch out a little water, scrunch in some aloe gel (FOTE), then scrunch in some Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee (BRHG). Plop with a backwards turbie twist for 10 min - to overnight.
    CG since 23 May 2009! (with some minor slips)
  • kmd303kmd303 Posts: 71Registered Users
    Deleted. As in re-reading it was off topic from what you all are talking about.

    :)
  • Maggie79Maggie79 Posts: 12Registered Users
    Froggilore wrote: »
    It looks like I must go find some Ecosytler now. Good thing I have to go to Hobby Lobby anyway (which is right next door to Sally's!)


    I think I'm going to try this too. I've seen lots of mentions here. Does anyone else have any suggestions of what I might get at Sally's. I'm brand new and don't know anything about products!

    Also, my hair is sort of "fluffy" at the end of my curls/waves in the back. Does that make sense? the waves look ok until the bottom of each curl, where they poke out every which way. They look dry maybe? But I've just gotten it cut so it's not because it needs trimming- could it be because of the cut? Anyway, is there a type of product I could put on it to make it look better.
    ~Maggie

    New Curly Girl! About 3 weeks in with a few "restarts" because of accidently using cones

    I'm a 2-not sure which, M/C, ii, still figuring out porosity and products and a bunch of other stuff!

    Took first pics today: /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2FMaggie79%2F" class="Popup Password: curly
  • Simply RedSimply Red Posts: 31Registered Users
    pedaheh, I have been itching to post since becoming a newbie! Perhaps you could consider using a leave-in cream with some pomade to seal and shape instead of gel (leaves the hair really soft too). It depends what sort of effect you wish to achieve. This works well for me, although it may not work for all. Best of luck.


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    Leave-in: Joico leave-in detangler
    Styling: Redken Fresh Curls curl refiner cream, Murray’s pomade (sparingly!)
    Treatment: Redken All Soft Heavy Cream
  • pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    Thanks Simply Red and welcome to the 2 boards. I'm actually pretty happy with my gel. I will definately add pomade to my "to try" list because I know a lot of people with similar hair to mine have had good luck with it.
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    2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
    Cowash: Tresemme naturals
    Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
    Curl enhancer: FSG
    Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
    PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
    Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
  • SalamanderSalamander Posts: 328Registered Users
    pedaheh wrote: »
    body.
    I thought I had the kind of straight hair that didn't dry straight and required some fixing. Duh Peda. Do you know what you call "the kind of straight hair that doesn't dry straight"? That would be wavy. I actually started the CG method to cope with my dry hair and split ends. I didn't think my hair was wavy. I'm nearing 40, so figuring this out at 20 makes you seem like a genius in comparison Finale.

    ROFL. This is SO me. I honestly thought I had straight hair that just wasn't very...straight. A curly-haired friend finally explained it to me, and I was like "Oh, but my hair isn't actually wavy. It's just oddly unmanageable, frizzy and sticks up and forms horns sometimes. But it's straight, mind you."

    I had the exact same cut as Cheetara for years. And I had to keep it super-short, because once it got to my eyebrows it started forming...hair horns, I used to call them. I was in total wave denial.

    I actually used to PERM my hair, in my teens and twenties, if you can believe that. With hilarious results. When you take very fine but extremely thick wavy hair and CURL IT WITH TEENSY LITTLE ROLLERS, the only result you possibly can get is something akin to Ronald McDonald. Three times I did this...always thinking it would be different this time, for unfathomable reasons.
    2a/b right now; 2c when it's longer
    Fine/iii density/high porosity

    Current favorites:
    Suave Naturals Coconut co-wash
    GVP Protein Restructuring Conditioner
    GVP Conditioning Balm
    Eco-Styler, LALSG, BRHG, Garnier Curl Shaping Spray Gel
    ACV rinse 1x per week
  • pedahehpedaheh Posts: 4,812Registered Users
    ROFL. This is SO me. I honestly thought I had straight hair that just wasn't very...straight. A curly-haired friend finally explained it to me, and I was like "Oh, but my hair isn't actually wavy. It's just oddly unmanageable, frizzy and sticks up and forms horns sometimes. But it's straight, mind you."
    Yep. That is me.
    I actually used to PERM my hair, in my teens and twenties, if you can believe that. With hilarious results. When you take very fine but extremely thick wavy hair and CURL IT WITH TEENSY LITTLE ROLLERS, the only result you possibly can get is something akin to Ronald McDonald. Three times I did this...always thinking it would be different this time, for unfathomable reasons.
    This is a me too, except my hair isn't thick. I permed my super fine porous hair with small rods to get super poodle head. Because my hair is thin and porous (I'm no stylist, but I assume this is why) it would relax in a few days/ a week. The results. Almost the exact same curl pattern I have now only slightly less wavy and with a luuverly perm rod touch. What do you do to hair once you've damaged it that much? Well you dye it, curl it with a curling iron, ratt it, and coat it with 1/2 a can of hairspray. Oh the 80's. When everyone smelled of aqua net. *Aqua net cans always said "Now with 50% more.".*
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpedaheh.blogspot.com%2F" class="Popup (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
    2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
    Cowash: Tresemme naturals
    Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
    Curl enhancer: FSG
    Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
    PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
    Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
  • eneriymaeneriyma Posts: 45Registered Users
    (This is my first forum post ever, so hopefully I do this correctly!).

    So happy to find this thread - I can identify with so many of you! My hair has been on a roller coaster of wavy textures the past ten years, twice getting very near 2c/3a, and now reverting back to 2a. Lately I've been worried that I wasn't actually wavy, that the waves were a side-effect of color and highlights. I started growing out the color last summer and my curly-haired stylist warned me that I'd lose a lot of wave - and I have! However, there are still the tighter curls around my hairline and base of my neck, so the wave must be natural (right?) - though I am struggling with the rest of my head, with 2a waves on the side and nearly straight locks at the back.

    I can't touch my hair or rake products through it after I get out of the shower, and in the past I've had the best luck with the "grabby" products (one of the best was TIGI Bed Head Curls Rock Curl Amplifier, but lately that's only been weighing me down). I've just started experimenting with CG at the moment to see how my hair reacts. I'm also really curious about the HerCut curly products, but have a suspicion that they're not thick enough for me.
    2c (front and hairline)/ 2a (back and sides), Mii, normal porosity, medium elasticity.

    Co-wash: Suave Naturals Coconut Conditioner
    Conditioner: Burt's Bees Super Shiny Grapefruit & Sugar Beet Conditioner, Renpure My Pretty Hair is Parched!
    Pre-wash: Coconut oil

    Products: Herbal Essences Set Me Up Gel, Herbal Essences Body Envy Volumizing Mousse, Kinky-Curly Curling Custard, Target Curls Cream Brulee, Target Curls Goddess Curl Gel
  • Kris&herKurlyKidsKris&herKurlyKids Posts: 55Registered Users
    I'm still new to this and this thread describes exactly how I feel lately and why!! How happy does this make me feel today of all days when I have scraggly hair that dried w/o product to make it wave.

    I only figured out in the last few years that my hair, in fact, is not straight and only recently decided to try and work with it the way it is. But honestly, I have been so frustrated b/c it isn't straight and I have to work so hard to make it wave. I hope it gets easier with time and once I find the right products.

    It's so funny b/c a lot of times people see my little girl and comment about how it must be hard to take care of her hair b/c it's so curly and actually I find the opposite is true. Her hair is easy to care for b/c it is predictable. All it needs is moisture and it just curls and curls. I only need one product in hair. And not for curl b/c it will curl w/o it. I just need the one product for moisture. I'm finding I'm using 4-5 products to get my hair to do something and each day it's a guessing game as to how it will turn out.

    Thank you for this thread. I'm not alone!
    Me: 2c, medium-coarse, thick
    Began my mod-CG routine May 2010


    DD (6 yo): 3c (tightly-curly girl) - now loving KCCC for her!
    DS (3 yo): a mix of 3b/3c/4a
  • DreeemingTreeeDreeemingTreee Posts: 57Registered Users
    So, i used to think my hair only had "a little body" to it, however, since going CG in April, my hair has sprung to life (no pun intended). I am not really sure how to classify my hair...I think maybe 2b/3a?? For some reason I can't upload any pictures outside of an Avatar, so I'm really hoping you get the idea from that teensy picture!
    CG since 04/10 and loving it!
    2b/3a (I think?!)
    Cowash: V05 Kiwi, Suave Naturals Coconut,
    Rinse out: Deva One C, GNTN
    Leave In: KCKT
    Stylers: KCCC, FOTE Aloe, AG Re:Coil, BRHG
    SOTC: Deva Set it Free, MOP Glisten high shine pomade, Coconut Oil
  • Robin-in-FLRobin-in-FL Posts: 1,731Registered Users
    No mine is never straight. Even when I comb the gel through, it starts to curl up by itself. BUT without a lot of scrunching it is Very Flat. Without gel it is actually just as wavy but completely undefined, each hair going its own way, and is still Very Flat. It reminds me of one of those videos from the 1960s with some guitarist rocking frizzy ugly waves.

    So I much prefer the way it looks with a lot of product in it, it will chunk up somewhat and get much smoother and more organized, and scrunching pops the curls up, and pineapple overnight and/or a little hairspray to make it bigger.
    2c / C / iii (FIA)
    Med-Coarse, LowPorosity, NormalElast (LCLF)

    Shoulder-Length now.

    Wash: DevaCare Low Poo
    Detangle & Rinseout: Walgreens or Sally's Conditioning Balm (always)
    Leave-in: DevaCare OneC (budget choice is GFTN)
    Style: ReCoil & DevaCare Arc Angel (budget choices are HESMU or Got2BSpikedUp)

    Henna!
  • plunkybugplunkybug Posts: 2,526Registered Users
    Dreeming Tree...your hair is very pretty!

    As for my hair, when I am in the shower, and have combed through the tangles, my hair is very straight, with only the slightest bend at the bottom. If left like that, it never dries as smooth or straight as that. It's amazing what a little encouragement and product can do!


    Lady Caiside, Noble Lushetarian and Wavy Wayfarer of Mugglswick, in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

    2b-3a Fii, porous and low elasticity

    Currently using a variety of products, and looking for that magic combo

    Hair bio: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showpost.php?p=1252125&postcount=59

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