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So I made my own FSG and

abstractcurlsabstractcurls Posts: 380Registered Users
I went all out big time.

I soaked the flax over night. Then I added dead sea salt and cooked it until the white foam appeared on top. I cooled it off and added aloe vera juice, agave nectar, seamollient, extracts of Rosemary, Lavender, Rose, Nettle, Lemongrass, Peppermint, Yucca, Horsetail, Melissa, and Plantago. Then I added Dehydroxanthan Gum and Raspberry Dimethicone WS (water souble). Topped it off with a preservative.

The last 4 days my hair has held curl all the way to the root. My curls are really well formed and even with high dew points (in the 70's) I haven't had any frizz. I'm pretty excited about the idea of making my own products. Next I'm going to try a conditioner and then try and extra hold gel to layer with my FSG. Here are some pictures. I wish I could get better pictures.

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  • curlykeycurlykey Posts: 1,540Registered Users
    Your hair looks awesome! I love FSG!! :thumbup:
    $5 off first order at iherb use code KEY066
  • curlyhairmichukcurlyhairmichuk Posts: 860Registered Users
    I went all out big time.

    I soaked the flax over night. Then I added dead sea salt and cooked it until the white foam appeared on top. I cooled it off and added aloe vera juice, agave nectar, seamollient, extracts of Rosemary, Lavender, Rose, Nettle, Lemongrass, Peppermint, Yucca, Horsetail, Melissa, and Plantago. Then I added Dehydroxanthan Gum and Raspberry Dimethicone WS (water souble). Topped it off with a preservative.

    The last 4 days my hair has held curl all the way to the root. My curls are really well formed and even with high dew points (in the 70's) I haven't had any frizz. I'm pretty excited about the idea of making my own products. Next I'm going to try a conditioner and then try and extra hold gel to layer with my FSG. Here are some pictures. I wish I could get better pictures.

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fcurlsinprogress.blogspot.com%2F...-thou-are.html" class="Popup

    Your hair is looking great!
    UK curly

    fine to medium strands, porous, medium density
    CG May 2009 - low poo occasionally
    Co-wash: Tresemme Naturals
    Styling -Naked Curl Defining Cream, BRHG, Mop Top, FSG
    Product for a good hair day: FSG or Mop Top
    Hair loves protein!
    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fcurlyhairmichuk%2F" class="Popup
    new pics added Jan 2012

    Enjoying the freedom of going curly!:wave:
    Duchess of Alba, Keeper of the Tartan Curls in The Order of the Curly Crusaders
  • Goin'GreyGoin'Grey Posts: 301Registered Users
    Your hair looks fantastic. The more I try different gels the more I love FSG. Some others are OK, but FSG is consistently great.

    Plus you really did go all out with your recipe. I could not begin to get all those ingredients!
    3A, Protein Senitive, Low Porosity,
    Med-Course
    Wash: Suave Naturals Conds (excluding Coconut), CVSB
    Rinse out/Leave In: GVP Cond. Balm, KCKT,
    Style: Naturelle Gel(winter HG), KCCC (summer HG), Flaxseed gel
    SOTC: JCNS
    Love your hair: Love yourself!
  • CurlyMomCurlyMom Posts: 334Registered Users
    Your hair looks Awesome! Was wondering why you put in Dead Sea Salt though....I'm new at this and still trying to learn. How much did you add?
    2c/3a/3b Fine/med texture, normal porosity, normal elasticity
  • namom3namom3 Posts: 40Registered Users
    I really like your cut! Is is technically a "bob" I want to try something different but I always chicken out and go for "trim into long layers" The gel is great- never again have to shop for one!
    No: heating tools, sulfates, cones, parabens
    Co-wash: Suave naturals (coconut and ocean breeze) Acct baking soda to clarify as needed
    DC: olive or almond oil with EO rosemary
    Style: Homemade flaxseed gel with aloe vera juice, epsom salt, and EO rosemary and lavender. Exploring various conditioners to use with the tightly curly method
    Want to try: adding different EO's to HFSG, growing out hair
    Always ISO: natural remedies for 3b curls!

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • loveliamloveliam Posts: 316Registered Users
    Is FSG similar to what Botticelli Botanicals Flax gelee is?

    Your hair looks divine!
    Leigh :)
    3a mixed with 2C???
    Fine Texture
    Normal to low Porosity
    Low Elasticity

    Mop Top Low Poo or Deva low poo
    Deva One Condition
    Deva B'leave-in for higher dews (Deva Foam for low dews).
    Deva Firm Hold Gel
    HG: Sweet Curls Crazy Curly Hard Hold Elixir after applying Deva and for 2nd/third day.
  • plunkybugplunkybug Posts: 2,526Registered Users
    loveliam wrote: »
    Is FSG similar to what Botticelli Botanicals Flax gelee is?

    Your hair looks divine!

    Yes, they are the same.


    Lady Caiside, Noble Lushetarian and Wavy Wayfarer of Mugglswick, in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

    2b-3a Fii, porous and low elasticity

    Currently using a variety of products, and looking for that magic combo

    Hair bio: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showpost.php?p=1252125&postcount=59

  • plunkybugplunkybug Posts: 2,526Registered Users
    What are the benefits of all the oils you put in the fsg? Why did you choose those particular ones?


    Lady Caiside, Noble Lushetarian and Wavy Wayfarer of Mugglswick, in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

    2b-3a Fii, porous and low elasticity

    Currently using a variety of products, and looking for that magic combo

    Hair bio: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showpost.php?p=1252125&postcount=59

  • loveliamloveliam Posts: 316Registered Users
    I used the Botticelli Botanicals FSG last night . . . it gives me really nice curl formation!
    Leigh :)
    3a mixed with 2C???
    Fine Texture
    Normal to low Porosity
    Low Elasticity

    Mop Top Low Poo or Deva low poo
    Deva One Condition
    Deva B'leave-in for higher dews (Deva Foam for low dews).
    Deva Firm Hold Gel
    HG: Sweet Curls Crazy Curly Hard Hold Elixir after applying Deva and for 2nd/third day.
  • dannysgirl777dannysgirl777 Posts: 70Registered Users
    could you bottle some up and send me some?!?!

    your curls look amazing!!
    ~Kristen
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]<<-working my way back to this!!
    My hair when I was 17 and had no idea how to flatten it.
  • mimikomimiko Posts: 120Registered Users
    Does the aloe Vera juice make it more moisturizing? I've been putting aloe gel in my fsg and it seems to be drying almost. I'm also curious about the dead sea salt, seems to be a strange ingredient to me lol. Right now my fsg has agave nectar and rose oil, but I want to see what other goodies I can add to it.
    3a/3b Protein sensitive
    Lo-Poo: MOP-C Hydration
    Co-wash TJ's tea tree, suave
    Conditioners: Yes to Cucumbers, TIGI Moisture Maniac
    DT:Ion reconstructor
    Leave-in: Giovanni DLI, Any of my other conditioners.
    Stylers: FSG!, Curl Keeper, HETT mousse, CJ CIAB, Garnier Fructis Pure Clean Gel, L'oreal Studio Silky Curls Gel, Deva Set it Free
    I diffuse and use CHS roller jaw clips
    I'm full Chinese and I never knew how to control my unruly hair until now! I <3 this website oh so very much.
  • plunkybugplunkybug Posts: 2,526Registered Users
    mimiko wrote: »
    Does the aloe Vera juice make it more moisturizing? I've been putting aloe gel in my fsg and it seems to be drying almost. I'm also curious about the dead sea salt, seems to be a strange ingredient to me lol. Right now my fsg has agave nectar and rose oil, but I want to see what other goodies I can add to it.

    Aloe should be moisturizing, however, some people find FOTE aloe gel to be drying. The salts are more likely to be the cause of drying though. It can give great curl formation if you can handle it though.


    Lady Caiside, Noble Lushetarian and Wavy Wayfarer of Mugglswick, in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

    2b-3a Fii, porous and low elasticity

    Currently using a variety of products, and looking for that magic combo

    Hair bio: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showpost.php?p=1252125&postcount=59

  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    mimiko wrote: »
    Does the aloe Vera juice make it more moisturizing? I've been putting aloe gel in my fsg and it seems to be drying almost. I'm also curious about the dead sea salt, seems to be a strange ingredient to me lol. Right now my fsg has agave nectar and rose oil, but I want to see what other goodies I can add to it.

    I would add magnesium oil rather than the salts. They aren't at all drying. I also think that it's the "quality" of the AVG that you use that can make it drying. I, personally, found FOTE drying--so use health food quality aloe vera (gel or juice) or Essential Wholesale Simple Aloe Jelly in my FSG.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • CeriCeri Posts: 142Registered Users
    Kathymack were do you like to buy your mag oil? And what ratio do you recommend to go from salts to oil in the FSG recipe? I currently use about 4 tsp mag sulfate in 3 cups of water. My hair is ok (not dried out) with that amount, but I'd like to try something new. See if I like it better. Thanks!
    3a/3b Medium Texture & Normal Porosity
    Modified CG since November 2009
    Low Poo - (Once in a while) True Polaris Solid Shampoo Bar
    CO-wash/Condish - (I'm lazy, one step only!) True Polaris Solid Conditioner Bars
    Styling - True Polaris Truly Curly Styling Gel I add 'cones in summer Truly Frizz Free Hair Serum
    I plop and defuse daily


    c_band2.gif I love MUSE
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Ceri wrote: »
    Kathymack were do you like to buy your mag oil? And what ratio do you recommend to go from salts to oil in the FSG recipe? I currently use about 4 tsp mag sulfate in 3 cups of water. My hair is ok (not dried out) with that amount, but I'd like to try something new. See if I like it better. Thanks!

    I bought the magnesium oil here: /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.swansonvitamins.com%2FSWU481%2FItemDetail%3FSourceCode%3DINTL405%26amp%3BCAWELAID%3D338697624" class="Popup

    I don't add anything until after I strain. I do 1/8 t of magnesium oil to 4 oz FSG.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • CeriCeri Posts: 142Registered Users
    kathymack wrote: »
    Ceri wrote: »
    Kathymack were do you like to buy your mag oil? And what ratio do you recommend to go from salts to oil in the FSG recipe? I currently use about 4 tsp mag sulfate in 3 cups of water. My hair is ok (not dried out) with that amount, but I'd like to try something new. See if I like it better. Thanks!

    I bought the magnesium oil here: /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.swansonvitamins.com%2FSWU481%2FItemDetail%3FSourceCode%3DINTL405%26amp%3BCAWELAID%3D338697624" class="Popup

    I don't add anything until after I strain. I do 1/8 t of magnesium oil to 4 oz FSG.

    Thank you!:wave:
    3a/3b Medium Texture & Normal Porosity
    Modified CG since November 2009
    Low Poo - (Once in a while) True Polaris Solid Shampoo Bar
    CO-wash/Condish - (I'm lazy, one step only!) True Polaris Solid Conditioner Bars
    Styling - True Polaris Truly Curly Styling Gel I add 'cones in summer Truly Frizz Free Hair Serum
    I plop and defuse daily


    c_band2.gif I love MUSE
  • ari.530ari.530 Posts: 25Registered Users
    If I'm prone to being over-moisturized, should I use the magnesium oil, or am I better off with the mag sulfate? I am determined to make the perfect batch of FSG (:
    3a with some 3b underneath
    Fine and thin
    Porosity TBD
    Can't get enough protein
    Still trying to find the perfect product(s)

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fari-530%2Fcg%2F" class="Popup
    PW: curls
  • kathymackkathymack Posts: 9,999Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    ari.530 wrote: »
    If I'm prone to being over-moisturized, should I use the magnesium oil, or am I better off with the mag sulfate? I am determined to make the perfect batch of FSG (:

    I don't think the small amount of magnesium oil will over moisturize you. Magnesium sulfate (Epsom salt) is easy to pick up at the drugstore. Try that first. I would suggest that you make a bunch of FSG, freeze it in 4 oz portions and add ingredients based on the previous 4 oz. You'll never know what's perfect for you until you try it and monitor and adjust. Remember hair needs change based on the season, so what works now may need to change in the Fall.
    3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
    SE PA

    HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • ari.530ari.530 Posts: 25Registered Users
    Thanks, kathymack. I've tried the epsom salts, and have definitely noticed better curl. But my hair has just been off the last few weeks. I can't tell if it's from that, from the new conditioner, or if it just needs more protein.

    I think I'll try out the magnesium oil though!
    3a with some 3b underneath
    Fine and thin
    Porosity TBD
    Can't get enough protein
    Still trying to find the perfect product(s)

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fari-530%2Fcg%2F" class="Popup
    PW: curls
  • mimikomimiko Posts: 120Registered Users
    How exactly would you add the magnesium sulfate? Do you put it in the water while boiling the seeds or do you mix it in after straining? And how much? Just curious XD
    3a/3b Protein sensitive
    Lo-Poo: MOP-C Hydration
    Co-wash TJ's tea tree, suave
    Conditioners: Yes to Cucumbers, TIGI Moisture Maniac
    DT:Ion reconstructor
    Leave-in: Giovanni DLI, Any of my other conditioners.
    Stylers: FSG!, Curl Keeper, HETT mousse, CJ CIAB, Garnier Fructis Pure Clean Gel, L'oreal Studio Silky Curls Gel, Deva Set it Free
    I diffuse and use CHS roller jaw clips
    I'm full Chinese and I never knew how to control my unruly hair until now! I <3 this website oh so very much.
  • ari.530ari.530 Posts: 25Registered Users
    I add it to the water as I'm boiling the seeds... About 1/2 tsp. for 1 c. water. Some people can tolerate more, some less. I started out with 1/4 tsp. and then increased it the next time when I realized my hair was liking it. HTH!
    3a with some 3b underneath
    Fine and thin
    Porosity TBD
    Can't get enough protein
    Still trying to find the perfect product(s)

    /home/leaving?target=http%3A%2F%2Fpublic.fotki.com%2Fari-530%2Fcg%2F" class="Popup
    PW: curls
  • mimikomimiko Posts: 120Registered Users
    ari.530 wrote: »
    I add it to the water as I'm boiling the seeds... About 1/2 tsp. for 1 c. water. Some people can tolerate more, some less. I started out with 1/4 tsp. and then increased it the next time when I realized my hair was liking it. HTH!

    Awesome thanks <3
    3a/3b Protein sensitive
    Lo-Poo: MOP-C Hydration
    Co-wash TJ's tea tree, suave
    Conditioners: Yes to Cucumbers, TIGI Moisture Maniac
    DT:Ion reconstructor
    Leave-in: Giovanni DLI, Any of my other conditioners.
    Stylers: FSG!, Curl Keeper, HETT mousse, CJ CIAB, Garnier Fructis Pure Clean Gel, L'oreal Studio Silky Curls Gel, Deva Set it Free
    I diffuse and use CHS roller jaw clips
    I'm full Chinese and I never knew how to control my unruly hair until now! I <3 this website oh so very much.
  • socknitstersocknitster Posts: 8Registered Users
    I've seen multiple references that magnesium chloride (magnesium oil) is less drying than magnesium sulfate (epsom salts). Is this personal experience talking, or do you have a reference?

    Magnesium sulfate is readily available and extremely cheap in any pharmacy or grocery store in the form of epsom salts--and is a great addition to a relaxing bath!

    Magnesium chloride is not really an oil. It is a super-saturated solution of the MgCl in water that only FEELS like an oil. There are no actual oils or lipids of any kind in this product unless you are buying a magnesium lotion which is basically the magnesium "oil" combined with lotion ingredients because magnesium "oil" applied directly to the skin can sting. Magnesium oil is very expensive, used by people with such a strong magnesium dietary deficiency that they have to apply it to their skin to try to make up the deficiency. It can be hard to find. My question is, if using such small amounts, is it really worth the time and expense to locate it?

    Is the chloride really better for the hair than the sufate? (the chemicals that the magnesium is combined with).

    Does anyone know what the magnesium actually does to the hair.

    I take magnesium malate and magnesium glycinate supplements. I am wondering if I could crush or open a capsule and add to my FSG? Is it the magnesium that does the trick or just salts of any kind? Anyone know?

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