CG doldrums - HELP!

Hi all,

I'm new here and hoping that someone can help me out. I started CG about 6 weeks ago and I'm stuck in a bit of a rut.

Surprisingly, my hair reacted really well and actually looked fabulous from day 2 onwards (everything that I had read had warned me that it might not look so good for the first two weeks) but after about a month, the frizz came back and my curls are less defined than ever.

I do go swimming once a week and use nutrigloss shampoo followed by nutrigloss conditionner and spray-in to get rid of the pool chemicals. If anything, I think that my curls look better after I have been in the pool.

I have combination type 3a/3b hair (mostly 3a but definitely 3b during the first weeks of CG). I wash my hair everyday, using Loreal nutrigloss conditionner for the first and second application then the nutrigloss spray-in and boots curl creme to style. I dry using a microfibre towel. Once a week, I use a conditionning mask (usually Aussi 3 minute no-frizz miracle) for the second application.

I had my last haircut the week before starting CG so I suppose I could be due for a trim. Would this make a difference?

Does anyone have any tips? How can I get my gorgeous curls back again?

Thanks

Edit: just realised that it isn't nutrigloss I use but Elseve boucles sublimes (sublime curls). I live in France and have looked on the Loreal website but can't find an equivalent product in another country. I'll post the ingredients when I get home but according to their website, the main ingredient is glycerine

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  • rymorg2rymorg2 Posts: 2,571Registered Users
    If you feel like your curls look better after the pool and the shampoo, it's a good possibility imo you're overconditioned, and the right thing to do in that case is to poo to get your hair back to where it needs to be. Maybe you could try a low poo once a week midweek to help perk your curls up.
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  • poemaXXpoemaXX Posts: 456Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    rymorg2 wrote: »
    If you feel like your curls look better after the pool and the shampoo, it's a good possibility imo you're overconditioned, and the right thing to do in that case is to poo to get your hair back to where it needs to be. Maybe you could try a low poo once a week midweek to help perk your curls up.

    I agree that you are probably overconditioned. Is there protein in your hair products? I'd suggest a protein treatment to get your hair back on track.
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  • GalarenaGalarena Posts: 5Registered Users
    HI bellebouclette,
    I live in France too, and before start CG I used Elseve Boucles Sublimes and that give me the worst curls I ever had. This product, like all those from L'oreal Elseve are full of silicones ( dimethicone, amodimethicone), and silicones build up in your hair and doesn't allow the moisture to get in.
    You have to clarify your hair ( get rid of those 'cones) with baking soda or lemon juice; and start to use products without silicone.
    In France the choice of products silicone-free is very limited, but I' m getting very good results with Garnier Ultra Doux conditioners, Surya Brasil Conditioners ( i buy it at Casino's) and Amazonia Preciosa Conditioner ( chez Naturalia).

    For styling I use one of this conditioners as a live in, and homemade flaxseed gel ( unexpensive, is excellent to control the frizz and gives definition).

    I hope that this will be helpful.
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  • bellebouclettebellebouclette Posts: 4Registered Users
    Thanks to all three of you for the advice. I think I'm going to combine bits from all three: baking soda scrub to clean out the gunk and switch to ultra doux conditionner (which is nice because the l'oréal stuff costs a bomb and is ruining me...).

    Having read some other stuff on here, I'm thinking of adding a weekly ACV rinse to my routine. Do you think this would help?

    Also (sorry, so many questions...) does anyone know if baking soda would be good to use after the pool instead of shampoo? Is it strong enough to get rid of the chemicals?

    Thanks

    PS Ironically, my hair is looking quite good today in spite of the misty rain that is falling here. I'll try and take a picture so that I can add it to my profile
  • aunttallulahaunttallulah Posts: 206Registered Users
    I am a swimmer as well.
    I have read & found it works well for me that you should wet your hair before going into the pool & then take your co-wash or LI and put it in your hair before you cap it.
    Do you do the same process when washing at home that you do in the pool? I found that even a change in one product makes a difference. So what you need to figure out is which product to change around.

    Good luck!
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  • aunttallulahaunttallulah Posts: 206Registered Users

    Having read some other stuff on here, I'm thinking of adding a weekly ACV rinse to my routine. Do you think this would help?

    Also (sorry, so many questions...) does anyone know if baking soda would be good to use after the pool instead of shampoo? Is it strong enough to get rid of the chemicals?

    I found that ACV rinse didn't work for me. But I am going to try again.
    If you are doing the Baking soda, you do need to do the ACV rinse afterwards.
    I use Kevin Murphy's Maxi wash shampoo. It is expensive, but it is sulfate free and my hair often seems better after I've used it.
    Toronto, Ontario Curlie
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    Using:CJCR/CJBH, Kevin Murphy Maxi wash, AG: recoil, JCCC, DBPSC, SSPT, SSPS, CHSCK
    Air Dry only!
    Want to take my new found knowledge and apply it to make lovely lush locks!
    Living life one curl at a time!
  • bellebouclettebellebouclette Posts: 4Registered Users
    I am a swimmer as well.
    I have read & found it works well for me that you should wet your hair before going into the pool & then take your co-wash or LI and put it in your hair before you cap it.
    Do you do the same process when washing at home that you do in the pool? I found that even a change in one product makes a difference. So what you need to figure out is which product to change around.

    Good luck!

    I just got back from the pool but I'll certainly try that when I go on Saturday. Until now, I've just been using the LI after washing when I get out.

    My routine at home and at the pool is slightly different in that I don't use any shampoo at home but at the pool I wash with Loreal elseve curl shampoo to get rid of the chlorine.

    Still, I'm moaning that my hair doesn't look as good as when I started CG but even on a bad day it looks 100 times better than before I started ;-) It would be nice to get to the 2-day hair stage though...
  • aunttallulahaunttallulah Posts: 206Registered Users
    That will come with time!
    I still find that I am not consistantly having 2nd hair days.
    But I also think you need to find the right products for you.
    I was doing the cheaper stuff before & had ok responses, but as I am learning and trying different products, I have relised that I don't mind paying a little more for the products.
    I still use suave naturals for the pool (I still have a couple of bottles from a trip to the Dollar store).

    Unfortunatly it is a process that is longer for some than others. But once you find the right combos it's great.
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    Using:CJCR/CJBH, Kevin Murphy Maxi wash, AG: recoil, JCCC, DBPSC, SSPT, SSPS, CHSCK
    Air Dry only!
    Want to take my new found knowledge and apply it to make lovely lush locks!
    Living life one curl at a time!
  • bellebouclettebellebouclette Posts: 4Registered Users
    Thanks again to you all for the advice.

    I made a few changes this weekend and things are looking up.
    On saturday, I did an ACV rinse with a few drops of rosemary oil then co-wash with Garnier Ultra Doux conditionner for curly hair and boots curl cream.
    On Sunday and today, I co-washed with ultra doux then used shea oil as a leave in and the boots curl cream to style. On Sunday, my hair was slightly greasy (but I think I over did the shea oil). Today it is shiny and I have a head full of perfectly formed spirals. I'm still lacking a little root lift but I just keep putting my head down and shaking the hair lightly from the roots to make it pick up again.

    I'm a happy bunny. :notworthy:
  • aunttallulahaunttallulah Posts: 206Registered Users
    I also only wash on pool days. I go 3 times a week, but I am cutting it down to once a week now. See how it goes!

    Glad things seem to be working for you!:wav:
    Toronto, Ontario Curlie
    2c/3a Fine Texture/Normal Porostiy/Normal elasticity
    Using:CJCR/CJBH, Kevin Murphy Maxi wash, AG: recoil, JCCC, DBPSC, SSPT, SSPS, CHSCK
    Air Dry only!
    Want to take my new found knowledge and apply it to make lovely lush locks!
    Living life one curl at a time!

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