curl stylist for wavies

saralacysaralacy Posts: 56Registered Users
i have 2a,fine,medium density hair. That being said i have been going to a stylist that only cuts straight hair.I have alot of trouble encouraging my waves my hair is bsl blunt cut with layers. My question if you are wavy do you need to go to a curly specialist or someone who knows how to cut curls and waves or can you get a good cut from someone who specializes in cutting straight hair? Does it really make that much of a difference in encouraging and enhancing waves? The reason i ask is accordin to nc.com the closest curly stylist is more than 2hrs away! Any suggestion greatly appreciated.

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  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I have waves, but my stylist has curls. I found her through a friend with waves who had a great haircut.

    I feel more comfortable with someone experienced with curls and waves, but with that said, I prefer the cuts I get from this stylist, who is not Deva trained, to those I got from a Deva stylist. (I also pay somewhat less).

    I'm confused by your description, though: a stylist who only cuts straight hair? Do you mean that she straightens each client's hair before she cuts it? So many people have waves........does she refuse them?

    Sounds like you need a new stylist, but you may not need to go two hours away to find one. Keep a lookout for someone with great waves, and ask where she or he gets her hair cut (my referral was from a guy, btw).
  • saralacysaralacy Posts: 56Registered Users
    ninja dog sorry my question was confusing what i meant was i go into her wavy and tell her i want to encourage my waves and she said id have to chop it of or do lots of layering. while im sure she cuts womens hair with waves and curls she gives very precise layers like for straight hair she dosent take into account your wave pattern or how it moves etc.I have tried many stylist in my area one who was naturally curly herself and another one that was recommend by a girl with natural curls and they were all horriblle. Nobody where im from are aware of any curly girl methods when i bring something up they look at me like im crazy! Sorry im just jealous of the bigger cities where it more accepted to be wavy or curly.
  • plunkybugplunkybug Posts: 2,526Registered Users
    Find someone with wavy or curly hair, or at least someone more open and experienced with wavies and curlies. Talk to them and if you aren't comfortable, then don't get the cut.


    Lady Caiside, Noble Lushetarian and Wavy Wayfarer of Mugglswick, in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

    2b-3a Fii, porous and low elasticity

    Currently using a variety of products, and looking for that magic combo

    Hair bio: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showpost.php?p=1252125&postcount=59

  • runnerchickirunnerchicki Posts: 475Registered Users
    Someone with experience with curls and waves will be able to evaluate your hair and give you good advice on the best cut. They understand "encouraging" curl and what we wavies are trying to accomplish.
    FIA: 2cFii

    Lady Crispina, Confector of Pharmaceutria and Conjurer of Exquisitus JuJu, in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Well, is there something else fun you can do if you do wind up going two hours away for a good haircut? Like visiting a museum or going to a good restaurant or an unfamiliar park that's pretty?

    It does sound like you're not having much luck locally, unfortunately.
  • saralacysaralacy Posts: 56Registered Users
    thank you guys for all your help its great to know you guys are here for your fellow wavies!
  • ninja dogninja dog Posts: 23,780Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Let us know what happens ---- I'm always interested in hearing how people find stylists they like.

    Mine had PMS the last time I saw her and was really funny and crazy.
  • FroggiloreFroggilore Posts: 141Registered Users
    I've been to both curly specialists and non-curly stylists. I've actually gotten all my best haircuts from non-curly people. However both of them actually took time to look at my hair and see how it works and listen to me about what I want from my hair. And were willing to take as long as needed to make it exactly what I wanted. So I think a stylist who is willing to listen and work with you is more important that just a curly specialist.
    Hair type: 2a/b, medium to fine texture, medium to high porosity (I think!)
    Routine: Occasionally wash with Lavender baby shampoo. CO wash with Garnier triple nutrition conditioner, use a nickel sized blob as a leave in, scrunch out a little water, scrunch in some aloe gel (FOTE), then scrunch in some Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee (BRHG). Plop with a backwards turbie twist for 10 min - to overnight.
    CG since 23 May 2009! (with some minor slips)
  • rferfe Posts: 36Registered Users
    One of the worst cuts I ever got was someone who was Deva trained. I can get my hair to be 2c curls but only if it stays crunchy, once I SOTC it falls. She left me with a bunch of layers that made the ends of my hair flip up and stick out. I looked like the flying nun until I found someone else to cut a lot of the layers out. It's going to take another six months to grow out the shortest layers and get my hair all to one length again.

    My stylist now has super straight hair and she cuts my wavy hair just fine. I think the most important thing is finding someone who listens. I appreciate that stylists are professionals but at the end of the day it's my hair and I'm the best person to tell you what has worked in the past and what's not working now.

    Good luck finding someone!
    2B - Fine (but lots of it) Texture, High Porosity
    Not really CG at the moment, might try again once my hair is much longer (i.e. I can put it up if it looks awful
    8-))
  • finaleofseemfinaleofseem Posts: 900Registered Users
    Rfe, I agree! I've been going to my pre-CG stylist, and she's great. She listens to what I want, and has never given me crap about disagreeing with her. While she's not good at the curly styling, the haircuts are great (and really cheap) so I keep coming back.
    Location: West Virginia (Eastern Panhandle)
    2b/cMii, medium-high porosity

    Likes protein and most oils, HATES mineral oil
    Summer Routine
    Poo: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture
    Cowash CJ Daily Fix
    Rinse out: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture
    Leave In: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture, SSRPT
    Stylers: Ecostyler Krystal, LALSG (in really high dews)
    PT: SS Repairing Protein Treatment
  • mrsmaymrsmay Posts: 5Registered Users
    If you can find a good stylist whom you trust and who listens, you'll be in good hands.

    I just got my first cut after going CG (about a month into the experience) from my pre-CG stylist. I just told her (1) what I liked about my hair, (2) what I didn't like (needed more volume, wanted more curl in the back, etc), and (3) that I was only wearing my hair curly now, and she gave me a gorgeous cut!

    I also brought in my own low-poo and condish for her to use on my hair. So far, I see no need for me to switch stylists, although, like, finale, she can't style curly hair to save her life! ;)
    Type: SL 2b/3a; wavier in back, curlier in front.
    Wash: Burt's Bees Very Volumizing Shampoo (mod CG), Burt's Bees Super Shiny Conditioner + honey, V05 Strawberries 'n Cream (co-wash)
    Styling: KCNT, LALSG, Aussie Sprunch Spray, LOOB, HESMU mousse, HETT spray gel, Biotera Curl Creme, GVP Volume Boost Spray, Alba Soft Hold Style Cream (LOVE)
    My hair loves honey, diffusing, and protein!
  • plunkybugplunkybug Posts: 2,526Registered Users
    I was in Rickis today, looking at dresses for my brother's wedding later this summer and the SA at the counter had awesome hair, so I told her. I asked her what she used and stuff ([buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/AG-Recoil-p-24.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=ag-hair-cosmetics-recoil-curl-activator]AG Re:Coil[/buylink]), and then she told me where she gets it cut (happens to be in the same mall) and gave me the stylist's card (apparently this comes up a lot so she has a stash of cards). I haven't gone to see the stylist to see if she's curly or not, but her hair was so awesome that I don't think I'd care. Ha ha ha! :P


    Lady Caiside, Noble Lushetarian and Wavy Wayfarer of Mugglswick, in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

    2b-3a Fii, porous and low elasticity

    Currently using a variety of products, and looking for that magic combo

    Hair bio: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showpost.php?p=1252125&postcount=59

  • rachelilyrachelily Posts: 340Registered Users
    I typically try to ask (when making an appointment on the phone) if there is anyone with curly hair experience. Usually, there is. The first time I finally found a curly hair stylist, I knew everything was going well when she sat me down and just started cutting, dry! That way, she could see each curl clump and know where it needed to be cut so that it would have the right bounce.

    If you can't find a curly stylist, ask (when you are at the salon) if you can have your hair cut dry rather than wet. This way, at least, the stylist won't be able to ignore the curls or waves when deciding where to cut.
    azb3ev.jpg
    2b-c/m/ii

    Aussie Aussome Volume shampoo
    Coconut oil + Aussie AV shampoo
    Eufora aloe vera leave-in conditioner
    LA Looks Sport Gel

    I use the super-soaker method :)

  • plunkybugplunkybug Posts: 2,526Registered Users
    I dunno...I mean, my last haircut was done by a curly, part wet and part dry, and yet there's some definite weird spots that have popped up...however, there's a girl at a shop near where I work who has gorgeous wurly hair, and the stylist she goes to is a straight head but is allegedly the top stylist at that salon, and yet just talking in the salon to the people, I already feel better about getting my next cut there. It's a little more expensive than the last place, but not hideously expensive either...I almost want it sooner rather than later. My last cut was blah...I had lots of dead ends cut, but I'm not convinced she did magic with my hair.


    Lady Caiside, Noble Lushetarian and Wavy Wayfarer of Mugglswick, in the Order of the Curly Crusaders

    2b-3a Fii, porous and low elasticity

    Currently using a variety of products, and looking for that magic combo

    Hair bio: http://www.naturallycurly.com/curltalk/showpost.php?p=1252125&postcount=59

  • cmartin1cmartin1 Posts: 152Registered Users
    I rely on this board because I don't know anyone in (off board) who is curly, or seeking to be. And you girls really know your stuff! I know I've already posted about this elsewhere, and I'm sorry for the redundancy, but should I get:
    a Deva cut
    a Quidad cut
    a normal cut, from a recommended salon from this board?

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    I know there's different strategies/outcomes for each cutting style, but looking at my hair, what do you think? I currently have a straight across, all one-length cut. I have 2c, protein-sensitive, high porosity hair.

    Thank you for any opinions/insights...I'm really trying to summon my courage to even see a stylist anymore.

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