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How Many Times a Week Do You Cowash?

$hannon$hannon Posts: 13Registered Users
Ok, please forgive me if this in a thread somewhere... Im still learning and looking for all the info!

So since learning about this cowash system, Im confused on how many times a week do you do this?

Before I found this site I was washing about every other day with organic sulfate free shampoo with a ACV rinse. Well my hair was always the same, wavy with frizz.
Well now learning that shampoo isnt the best way to go, I dont know how many times I should cowash? Or how often should I use the ACV rinse??

This morning I cowashed (with Suave Coconut) and I put frizzease mouse in it and some control gel I got off this site and the plopped my hair for as long as could before I had to leave the house, then blow dryed it a little and put frizzease secret weapon cream in it.
But it still looks the same and frizzy.... I always have a layer of frizz on top of my curls... I hate it!

And also this may be a dumb question, but what products have silicones in them? I have not found a direct answer to that yet... I did find the info to use clear gels... so does that mean that the frizzease secret weapon finishing cream has silicone in it?

Sorry if this is a repeat question! Thanks!
CG Since 5/18/10
2a Canopy, 3a underneath
Medium Texture, Low/Average Porosity
Still learning about everything else!
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  • RoswentheRoswenthe Posts: 66Registered Users
    I'm still working out the process of co-washing myself, but the Frizzease line does have cones. All you have to do is look for the word that ends in -cone.

    I am starting simple with just a conditioner wash with Suave Naturals conditioner and a clear gel without cones. My hair is already a lot softer and less frizzy.

    Here's the ingredients of the creme:
    Water, Propylene Glycol, Persea Gratissima Oil (Avocado), Phenyltrimethicone, Glycerin, C12 15 Alkyl Benzoate, Isostearyl Palmitate, Glyceryl Stearate, PVP, Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate, Triethanolamine, Sorbitan Oleate, Acrylates/C10 30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer, Cocamidopropyl PG Dimonium Chloride Phosphate, Steardimonium Hydroxypropyl Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, Phenoxyethanol, Diazolidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Fragrance (Parfum), Red 40, Yellow 10
    Averages out at 2b, ranges from 1c to 3a, very fine
    Mane 'n Tail co-wash + leave-in

    Clarifying shampoo every few weeks
    Lavender Allergy
  • $hannon$hannon Posts: 13Registered Users
    Ok, I see now... I never knew that silicones were a big deal.. Thanks for the info. I will keep my eye out.. Thanks!
    CG Since 5/18/10
    2a Canopy, 3a underneath
    Medium Texture, Low/Average Porosity
    Still learning about everything else!
  • mitabirdmitabird Posts: 226Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    I do a full CO wash (scalp and length) once a week and a scalp only CO wash 1-2x a week. I do an acv rinse weekly, usually when I do the full CO wash.

    It's really all about trial and error. Silicones aren't bad, but you can't use them if you go the CG route. Most silicones need to be shampooed out to be removed from your hair.
    Western Pennsylvania

    3b, medium textured, medium thickness, medium porosity, protein sensitive
    CG since 6/22/04

    CO Washes: Suave Conditioners, Devacurl No Poo
    Conditioners: Trader Joe Nourish, GV Conditioning Balm, JC Too Shea
    Styling: Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee, Chi Infra Gel, GF Pure Clean Gel
    DT: Devacurl Heaven in Hair, Nature's Therapy Mega Moisture, Hask Henna & Placenta (every 3 mo)

    Hair photos
    pw: manycurls
  • smasters467smasters467 Posts: 527Registered Users
    When I cowashed, I did it everyday, I just like the routine of it, and I like starting with a clean slate daily. If the shampoo you were using was sulfate-free, and you liked it, then there's no reason that you can't continue to use it. You could try alternating it with cowashing if you like. Sulfates are what make shampoo a no no for curlies, not the shampoo itself. Alot of us use shampoos, but not ones with sulfates. It's called modified CG.
    How's My Hair?
    Review: L'Oreal Evercreme Cleansing Conditioner
    Review: Yes To Carrots Nourishing Shampoo & Pampering Conditioner + 35% off at YTC.com

    3a-b, fine & medium texture, medium-high porosity from years of damaging. I'm addicted to changing my hair color.
    Cleansing: No-Poo, Elucence MBS, YTC Poo,
    Conditioner: One Condition, JC Too Shea!, YTC Condish, Elucence MBC, Joico Daily, KCKT
    Styling: KCCC, LALPS, BRHG, Biotera Gel
    SMB Photography
  • Kris&herKurlyKidsKris&herKurlyKids Posts: 55Registered Users
    Can you explain why the ACV rinse? How often? I'm new to CG and trying to figure out how often to wash as well.
    Me: 2c, medium-coarse, thick
    Began my mod-CG routine May 2010


    DD (6 yo): 3c (tightly-curly girl) - now loving KCCC for her!
    DS (3 yo): a mix of 3b/3c/4a
  • mitabirdmitabird Posts: 226Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    Can you explain why the ACV rinse? How often? I'm new to CG and trying to figure out how often to wash as well.

    I live in an area with hard water and it helps prevent mineral buildup in my hair.
    Western Pennsylvania

    3b, medium textured, medium thickness, medium porosity, protein sensitive
    CG since 6/22/04

    CO Washes: Suave Conditioners, Devacurl No Poo
    Conditioners: Trader Joe Nourish, GV Conditioning Balm, JC Too Shea
    Styling: Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee, Chi Infra Gel, GF Pure Clean Gel
    DT: Devacurl Heaven in Hair, Nature's Therapy Mega Moisture, Hask Henna & Placenta (every 3 mo)

    Hair photos
    pw: manycurls
  • Kris&herKurlyKidsKris&herKurlyKids Posts: 55Registered Users
    mitabird wrote: »
    Can you explain why the ACV rinse? How often? I'm new to CG and trying to figure out how often to wash as well.

    I live in an area with hard water and it helps prevent mineral buildup in my hair.

    Thank you, that makes a lot of sense. We have hard water here too. I'm going to give this a try.
    Me: 2c, medium-coarse, thick
    Began my mod-CG routine May 2010


    DD (6 yo): 3c (tightly-curly girl) - now loving KCCC for her!
    DS (3 yo): a mix of 3b/3c/4a
  • ColletteCollette Posts: 5Registered Users
    I like to keep it simple and I co-wash weekly which is as much as I would wash when I used shampoo. I found that even the sulfate free shampoos dried my hair out. Here's my routine now and I am loving it. My curls are thanking me:

    Co-wash: [buylink=http://www.curlmart.com/Aubrey-Organics-Honeysuckle-Rose-Moisturizing-Conditioner-p-1015.html?utm_source=naturallycurly.com&utm_medium=text-link&utm_content=curltalk-post-text&utm_campaign=aubrey-organics-honeysuckle-rose-conditioner]Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose conditioner[/buylink] (whole foods or vitamin shoppe $8 for 11oz bottle). THIS stuff is the BOMB. All natural. They have a whole line. Just as an example here are the ingredients in the conditioner: Coconut fatty acid cream base, organic aloe vera,organic shea butter,wheat germ oil,organic jojoba oil,organic rosa mosqueta Rose Hip seed oil,extracts of fennel,hops,balm mint, mistletoe,camomile, magnolia; honeysuckle oil, carrot oil, vitamines a,c,e.

    It's soo thick and creamy that you have to squeeze the bottle to get it to come out and my hair just melts in my hand when I'm putting it in. I leave it on for 15 minutes then rinse with cold water to seal in the moisture. I follow up with Shea Moisture Shea butter leave-in conditioner, my curls are soo defined and moisturized. Ingredients: Shea butter , deionized water, herbal complex, panthenol,centormonium chloride, glycerin, cocoa butter,aloe vera, jojoba oil vitamin e. after that I seal in all that moisture with 100% castor oil.

    That's it and my hair is ridiculosly soft all day. I always do the wash and go thing. Oh and I smooth down my edges with eco syle gel (alcohol free).
  • BrosiaaaBrosiaaa Posts: 18Registered Users
    I co wash daily and shampoo about every 2 weeks
  • vtcurlievtcurlie Posts: 16Registered Users
    I cowash just about every day. I don't get second day hair that I'm happy with, so I need to wet my hair and start over with product every day. I've been cowashing (or at least using a rinse-out conditioner) everyday for months without feeling over-conditioned. If you've been using sulfates for awhile, your hair might be especially dry, so it might really appreciate the extra moisture each day.
    Mostly 3b with some 3c & 3a
    Modified CG since Sept 2008
    CO: Deva No-Poo and WEN
    LI: WEN & OneC
    Gel/Stylers: CHS CK & Gel, Jessicurl RR & CC
    Low poo once in awhile

    Braving the gray & growing out my color!
  • MaciMaci Posts: 180Registered Users
    I also cowash practically everyday and use a sulfate free shampoo every 1-1.5 weeks. At first, I had to shampoo every other day because my scalp was producing a lot of oil from daily shampooing. Eventually was able to shampoo every 3rd day and now 2-3x a month. My hair is medium to high porosity and an ACV rinse helps close the hair cuticle after a shampoo. It makes my hair a little silkier, shinier and easier to manage.

    Go to the very first group of blog posts to learn about silicones and how to read labels. It's just like learning to read food labels when you're on a diet.
    Spirals, curls & waves, Med-Coarse Texture, Med Porosity, Low Elasticity
  • emthefantasticalemthefantastical Posts: 962Registered Users
    i co-wash daily/every other day. i don't get fantastic 2nd day hair so i like starting with a clean slate. and i low-poo once a month/once every two weeks/if i feel build-upy. it's really all trial and error and what works best for your hair.
    2c/3a
    somewhere between fine and medium texture
    average porosity underneath, fairly high porosity in the canopy



    cowash: Suave Tropical Coconut
    rinse-out: GFTN, One-C
    styling: LALSG, EcoStyler, Deva Styling Cream

  • Miss LynxMiss Lynx Posts: 27Registered Users
    I only do the full scalp-scrubbing thing about every 2-3 days, but I do at least smooth a bit of conditioner through the length of my hair and rinse it out every time I shower (almost every day, though I skip days now and then). I do that mainly to help detangle and rinse out the previous day's gel.

    My second-day hair (on days that I skip showering) is actually usually pretty decent-looking these days. It's one of the advantages I've found of doing the CG thing - before that, anytime I skipped showering, my hair looked terrible and the only thing I could do was pull it back into a ponytail. Now I just have to dampen slightly by running wet hands through it, scrunch a bit, and then maybe add a bit more gel, and it's good to go. So the co-washing seems to be very good for it.
    Hair type: 3a (fine "Botticelli curls", a little less than shoulder length).
    CG Status: Mostly CG since Feb 25 - it's still kind a work in progress.
    Currently using: Suave Naturals Tropical Coconut conditioner as both co-wash and leave-in, and Aussie Instant Freeze gel. Have almost entirely kicked the blow drying habit now, and finally gotten the hang of that clipping thing.
  • curlieaggiecurlieaggie Posts: 2Registered Users
    I shampoo about every 10 days and co-wash every 2 to 3 days. I use the mister right on the mornings after I don't co-wash. I spray it all over and do a little light scrunching and that seems to perk everything up again and it doesn't leave any build-up feel on my hair.
  • stefflynhstefflynh Posts: 410Registered Users
    mitabird wrote: »
    I do a full CO wash (scalp and length) once a week and a scalp only CO wash 1-2x a week. I do an acv rinse weekly, usually when I do the full CO wash.

    It's really all about trial and error. Silicones aren't bad, but you can't use them if you go the CG route. Most silicones need to be shampooed out to be removed from your hair.

    When you do a acv rinse what do you do? I mean after cowashing, by itself, etc? I'm going to try a rinse, but not sure of the procedure....
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]properties-3 a\b, very fine, medium density, normal porosity, normal elasticity
    low poo- GTT, 50\50 or whatever I have at hand
    RO- CJBCS, TNVC, Suave Coco
    Stylers-FSG & BRHG
    PT (twice a week)-CJRM, Ion Reconstructor, SSPT
  • dandydandy Posts: 346Registered Users
    i co wash maybe every 3 days.. just because my hair takes sooooo long to dry and i cant always give it that time
    2c/3a ? fine/medium iii- tons of it! FL. Suave, TTNG, CJDF co wash, GDLI
    HG- FSG, CK, ReCoil, Aldi shique gelee, ACV, ccclite or fsg 4 2nd day sotc:JCNS
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  • mitabirdmitabird Posts: 226Registered Users Curl Connoisseur
    stefflynh wrote: »
    mitabird wrote: »
    I do a full CO wash (scalp and length) once a week and a scalp only CO wash 1-2x a week. I do an acv rinse weekly, usually when I do the full CO wash.

    It's really all about trial and error. Silicones aren't bad, but you can't use them if you go the CG route. Most silicones need to be shampooed out to be removed from your hair.

    When you do a acv rinse what do you do? I mean after cowashing, by itself, etc? I'm going to try a rinse, but not sure of the procedure....

    I do the acv rinse after I CO wash and before I do a second conditioning. I use a 7-11 big gulp cup (50 oz, I think), pour a little acv in the cup (enough to cover the bottom) and fill it up with water. I dip my ends in the mixture, pour it over my head and leave it on for about one minute. I then rinse it out and do my final conditioning.
    Western Pennsylvania

    3b, medium textured, medium thickness, medium porosity, protein sensitive
    CG since 6/22/04

    CO Washes: Suave Conditioners, Devacurl No Poo
    Conditioners: Trader Joe Nourish, GV Conditioning Balm, JC Too Shea
    Styling: Biosilk Rock Hard Gelee, Chi Infra Gel, GF Pure Clean Gel
    DT: Devacurl Heaven in Hair, Nature's Therapy Mega Moisture, Hask Henna & Placenta (every 3 mo)

    Hair photos
    pw: manycurls
  • Morgan_AdcockMorgan_Adcock Posts: 2,573Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    Chemicals with names that end in -cone, -conol, or -xane are silicones. If the name begins with PEG, it'll wash out without harsh detergents, usually referred to here as sulfates or poo. However you can do a baking soda cleanse (I prefer to mix baking soda with the co-wash conditioner du jour, rather than with water), followed with an apple cider vinegar rinse (to reset the pH of your hair).

    So you're going to need to poo or BS/ACV to get those cones out. Once you've done that after ditching the cones, IMO you'll rarely need to repeat it, although some people like to do it rather frequently.

    You can co-wash or low-poo as frequently as you feel the need. To try to re-set the greasiness of my scalp, I immediately followed every low-poo with a co-wash, and that seems to have worked. I started out doing a daily cleanse, gradually upping the times I only co-washed, and decreasing the times I low-pooed.
    Peace,
    Morgan

    Baby Fine 3B, low porosity, normal density and elasticity
    CGing since July 2008
  • innerbeautyyinnerbeautyy Posts: 3Registered Users
    I co wash daily with AO HSR :love10:
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    "[My hair and I] are in an unhealthy relationship and I am the abuser."
    -- MissKinkyCoily
  • Lucky CharmLucky Charm Posts: 1,250Registered Users
    silicone ingredients end in -cone, -xane, and -conol. As previously mentioned, the FrizzEase line contains silicones.
    - 2C - Coarse Canopy & med/fine underlayers
    - MOP C Hydrating 'poo
    - LOreal Natures Therapy Moisturizing condish, ION Effective Care, Garnier S&S (old formula)
    - treatments: CJ Curl Rehab, CJ Repair Me!
    - plopping, diffusing, and clipping the roots
  • honeybrown1976honeybrown1976 Posts: 84Registered Users
    I co-wash at least 3x a week.
    HGs: Oyin Handmade Hair Dew; EVOO; Coconut Oil; Jessicurl Deep Conditioning Treatment

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  • nic51091nic51091 Posts: 15Registered Users
    I co wash every 2-3 days and shampoo every 2 weeks. Mix it up a little and see what your hair likes!
  • pinkwolfpinkwolf Posts: 430Registered Users Curl Novice
    I co-wash 1x per week and shampoo 1x per week

    Sent from my N861 using CurlTalk App
    *Natural 3C/TWA* :toothy7:
    Wash: BS/ACV, ABS, KC Come Clean
    Conditioner: Garnier WB Honey Treasures
    , Garnier WB Apple & Green Tea
    Pre-Poo: Oils & Honey Mix
    DC: Garnier WB Honey Treasures Mask, SM 10-N-1

    PT: Super Mayo Deep Conditioning Treatment
    Styler:
    KCCC
    Leave-In: KCKT
    Moisturizer:
    Whipped Shea Butter
    Oil/Sealant:
    EVCO, Jojoba
  • LoveInBetweenLoveInBetween Posts: 392Registered Users
    Every other day because my scalp gets itchy and my hair craves TONS of moisture.

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using CurlTalk App
    Curl Routine
    Co: As I am Coconut CoWash,VO5 Claifying Conditioner
    DC: Macadamia Repair Masque
    LI: KCKT, Suave Naturals Coconut
    Style Creme: Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie
    Gel: KCCC, Eco Styler Argan Oil
    Sealer: EVCO, EVOO

    3b/3c, High Desity, High Porosity, Medium Texture, BSL
    ""Live by the sun, love by the moon"


  • hambo02hambo02 Posts: 480Registered Users
    I cowash for two days at most and then use a gentle shampoo. But If I cowash for two days straight, the first day I'll use a reg conditioner and the second day I'll use one with my added tea tree oil.
  • LISA LISALISA LISA Posts: 566Registered Users
    Almost every day. My curls need to be reset if I want them to look good. Second day hair doesn't exist for me.
    Big Chop from hip - 5/2014
    Enjoying the journey to APL or BSL!
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  • arsangaarsanga Posts: 13Registered Users
    I've been trying co-washing lately, doing it 2x a week, but I think I'm going to need to start interspersing low-poo in there as well. The first two times I co-washed, my hair felt AWESOME. But by the start of week #2, my scalp has been feeling itchy and greasy. I tried co-washing again last night to combat it, but now it's itchier than ever. Siiighhh, back to toying around with my routine >.>
  • rmc2rmc2 Posts: 349Registered Users
    I have 4a hair. I Cowash 2x on wed and sat. In between Cowash days, my trick is to wet hair while in shower maybe leaving hair under water for 15-30 seconds, then I take a little bit of the gel I used on Cowash days, spread it on palms and put on hair using hand prayer method or whatever the name is. This entails putting a bunch of hair in between your 2 palms and sliding palms along length of hair. I don't do this on all hair but mostly on the sides. Then I
    Shake hair to reloosen curls. And voila. U may choose to do same process if u want to top hair with oil.
  • curlicious13curlicious13 Posts: 1,632Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    I would be VERY careful when doing a acv rinse. I just did one yesterday & had HORRIBLE results. My hair was extremely dry & shed a lot. Not shedding now but yesterday was a mess. Proceed with extreme caution when using acv rinse.
  • PuertoricangirlPuertoricangirl Posts: 428Registered Users
    Every 3 days 💗
    3A/3B Fine/Medium curly, Low Porosity, Medium density, long length.

    *Shampoo & Conditioner: Shea Moisture Coconut and Hibiscus Curl and shine
    *Leave-in: Kinky Curly Knot Today and GVP Condtioning Balm
    *Cream Stylers: Shea Moisture Curl enhancing smoothie, Coconut and hibiscus styling milk
    Gels: L.A Looks Sports Gel, and Kinky Curly Curling Custard
    *Serum: Curly Hair Solutions Curl Keeper

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