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Ever have nostalgia for pre-CG hair?

MirCurlsMirCurls Posts: 2,660Registered Users
Funny. I was browsing my hubby's Flickr photostream and came upon a pic I hadn't seen that he took of me 3 days before I went CG.
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While I admit I love having my curls, and he loves my curls, I hate that I can't shape my hair the way I want. One thing about blown-dry hair, if the cut is good, you can get a shape that flatters your face, use bangs how you want, etc.

Here's the pic that gave me a pang of nostalgia for my blown hair--and mostly cause I liked the shape. I have yet to like the SHAPE of my hair with curls (with a couple days' exceptions). Curls do what they want, and I will need to quest for a cut that gives me a shape I find face-flattering and keep-up-a-ble.

Today, the urge to blow-dry is pretty sharp. Sigh.
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  • curlyhairmichukcurlyhairmichuk Posts: 860Registered Users
    You suit your hair like that too mir - nothing to say you couldn't do a blow dry one day for a change :pl:
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  • goobernutgoobernut Posts: 2,317Registered Users
    I know what you mean exactly! I have a cone head, so I like a cut that would give me a little height just below the crown so I didn't look so much like a comedy sketch from SNL.

    I struggled and struggled with it. Even after Tiffany cut it, it was shaped so nicely around my face -- for like 3 weeks.

    I got sick of it again, had my hairdresser cut it. I didn't like it -- ended up too short for my tastes, then made her cut it again. Now! Finally! I'm happy with how it falls around my face. So I'd say I've really only been happy with the shape of it twice in nearly the year I've been CG.

    But I think some of that is my picky weirdness too. I like this recent cut so much I may keep it this summer instead of trying to grow it out. I'll just wait till fall.
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  • wavyblondewavyblonde Posts: 1,637Registered Users Curl Neophyte
    YES, Mir! I totally agree, and that's why I still blow dry about 50% of the time. I know what my hair will look like when I round-brush it. I like the shape of it, and I like how it looks with my face.

    I like my hair when it's wavy, but I can't control how it falls, and I don't always think it's as flattering as when it's straighter. It's like the hair objectively looks good, but I don't know if it's as cute on me.

    I used to really like my hair when I would get waves from wrapping it around a 1" barrel curling iron. That was flattering to my face. But it also destroyed my hair.

    I'm playing with loosening the curl around my face, trying to see if I can get the look I envision in my mind.
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  • CopaseticCopasetic Posts: 222Registered Users
    I just miss the ease of my pre-cg routine. It was just shampoo, condition, leave-in. I never even read ingredients back then! Now I obsess over them.
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  • divamisstdivamisst Posts: 293Registered Users
    Every once in awhile I do miss my short, super-sleek hair of old....then I remember that it would take me almost an hour to blow dry it straight, and another 40 minutes with the flat iron. In the mornings, I would still need to spend about 30 minutes flat ironing the bits that got messed up at night. And if it rained or if I were to sweat AT ALL, forget it--my hair starts kinking up immediately (and what are the chances I won't sweat in summer, huh??)...so that kinda makes me happy that I've chosen to embrace the REAL me and start making peace with my hair!! Plus, I get to sleep in for an extra 40 minutes or so in the mornings :D
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  • nomilknoglutennomilknogluten Posts: 121Registered Users
    not really. pre cg, my hair was constantly frizzy and mostly straight, with 2 sad-looking curls next to my ears. And I still had to read labels b/c I'm allergic to a lot of things.
  • redcelticcurlsredcelticcurls Posts: 17,502Registered Users
    Hell to the no.

    I never blew it out before cg. It takes my stylist a good 90 minutes to do it, and I surely wouldn't do it that quickly.

    So, I just had inconsistent curls that often looked like crap before. No nostalgia here at all.
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  • angel29ishangel29ish Posts: 800Registered Users
    The only nostalgia I have for pre CG is the discontinued silicone that I loved. :sad: I've only had my hair straightened about 6 times. It took my stylist an hour and me almost twice that long. I loved having swingy hair that I could flip around as opposed to bouncy hair, but not enough to spend the time. Plus, hubs hates it straightened...lol
    Mir your pics are beautiful! You certainly can rock it both blown out and curly. :icon_smile:
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  • MirCurlsMirCurls Posts: 2,660Registered Users
    I guess I don't have as much hair as some of you ladies, since I could blow-dry my hair to look like those pics in about 25 to 30 mins (longer if I also flat-ironed, which I rarely did, as I was too lazy). I have yet to have my curly hair dry in that much time. Takes HOURS. I guess if I used high heat and the diffuser it would be about that much, but that would defeat the purpose of trying not to damage hair with heat.

    And one solid blow-dry meant my hair looked good for 3 to 5 days (if I didn't get it wet and didn't sweat too much). :)

    Ah, let me find the right hairdresser soon.
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  • NalliaNallia Posts: 2,979Registered Users
    MirCurls wrote: »
    I guess I don't have as much hair as some of you ladies, since I could blow-dry my hair to look like those pics in about 25 to 30 mins (longer if I also flat-ironed, which I rarely did, as I was too lazy). I have yet to have my curly hair dry in that much time. Takes HOURS. I guess if I used high heat and the diffuser it would be about that much, but that would defeat the purpose of trying not to damage hair with heat.

    And one solid blow-dry meant my hair looked good for 3 to 5 days (if I didn't get it wet and didn't sweat too much). :)

    Ah, let me find the right hairdresser soon.
    It isn't only a matter of how much hair you have. My hair is very fine, but it doesn't straighten easily and took over an hour at BSL. It would still take me a good 45 minutes to do it myself and I'm better at it than most stylists.

    It is very difficult to blow my hair straight and get it straight without flat ironing it. I've only come across three stylists where I live now who could do it with a blow dryer and a flat iron. Most can't get it straight at all--they just turned it into a poofy, frizzy mess.

    When I did blow it straight (or get it done), I had to flat iron it again the next morning because it wouldn't hold overnight. The slightest bit of humidity would turn it into a freak show. :confused2: When that didn't happen, I would still have to wash it again in 48-72 hours. My dry scalp can't go longer than that without beginning to itch and flake (flakes that would turn into scabs if they weren't dealt with immediately).

    Ugh. It was never worth the hassle, and needing to use so much heat and pulling did so much damage to my hair.
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  • DeodandDeodand Posts: 159Registered Users
    All I have to do is look at my passport, with my pre-CG hair on it. I spent a lot of time on it and I look like hell.:confused5:
    2B low porosity low elasticity fine texture
    I'm not CG - tried it and failed for two years. My scalp hates it.
  • Gemini13Gemini13 Posts: 5,000Registered Users
    No way. I was never a straightener, and even before CG I considered my hair one of my best qualitites. I just disliked how unpredictable it could be. My hair is so much more manageable now, and even though I don't always know how it's going to turn out, I usually like it.

    A good cut was key too... I was CG for a while before I had layers cut in. So even though it was healthy, I still had triangle hair.
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  • Jess the MessJess the Mess Posts: 5,844Registered Users
    I still blowdry. I'm digging my InStyler right now. I limit it and baby my hair so I'm not seeing the damage I had when I was blowing it out every day. The first year of CG I was strictly curly to get rid of heat damage but now I'm 50/50.
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  • curlypearlcurlypearl Posts: 11,970Registered Users Curl Novice
    Jess, do you think the Instyler is less damaging than blow drying or is it basically the same?

    I never used a flat iron, but blow drying definitely messed up my hair. Of course in those days I always used the hottest setting, and sulfate shampoos - what did I know?
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  • curlygirlymecurlygirlyme Posts: 1,340Registered Users
    Yes. My curls were easy then. I used herbel essences (the old ones) and a Jasmine Cucumber Curly Hair Gel from Bath and Body works (it was there own line and it rocked). That was it and my hair was awesome. Yeah I miss it.
  • MirCurlsMirCurls Posts: 2,660Registered Users
    Yeah, I don't have a lot of hair. People sometimes THINK I do, cause the curls when I finger comb them out look poufier and more voluminous. I always tell them, "Go ahead and grab my hair and make a pony tail." When they do that, they realize that I DO NOT have a lot of hair. It just poufs. :) Compressed, it feels insignificant.

    I guess that's why it dried faster (plus the porosity issues, as my hair dried fast even if I didn't blow dry as long as it didn't have gels and lots of creams, etc).
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    Natural since 11/25/09
    Then: fine, superdry, non-elastic, porous
    Now: medium, dry, elastic, lower porosity, BSL

    Curl Junkie Conditions!
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  • CurlyToastCurlyToast Posts: 579Registered Users
    I read this thread yesterday and was still thinking about it this morning, when I applied my (A)cone-laden leave-in. It illuminated that which I find oddest about this website -- which is fantastic, and from whence I have mined all types of super helpful info, mainly about technique and heretofore unknown product.

    But the thing is . . . if you're nostalgic for something, why don't you just, you know, *do* it? It seems to me that so many people come to NC.com frustrated and tired and desperate to just have someone tell them what to do. Provide a magic bullet, as it were. I've seen so many lamentations about cone or sulfate products that "really made my hair great, but are doomed for their CG unfriendliness", etc.

    If something works for your hair -- or there's a product or styling method that you feel like using -- I cannot for the life of me figure out why you wouldn't use it / do it just because some random curly-headed woman suggested, at some point, that your hair would be "better" if you didn't.

    I mean, if it works: awesome. If CG has given you total hair satisfaction then I am pleased for you. But whether it has or has not, if you wake up one morning feeling like rocking the straight hair, or a blowout then . . . for serious, why the hell not???

    Seems detrimental to hang onto a method just because it exists, even if it's not pleasing to you. And I'm not talking about occasional bad hair days -- because find me someone who makes those stop under any circumstance, and I'll show you my new bestie. I am speaking of the attitude that "I wish I could _____, but it's not CG!"

    There are no CG police. Get the damn blowdryer already. :toothy10:
  • curlywurlygurlycurlywurlygurly Posts: 1,180Registered Users
    ATM i blow dry every now and then.My wave pattern is a nightmare at it's current length! If i want to wear my hair out or even my bangs out the blow drier comes out.Especially as it's getting colder here - hate leaving the house in winter with wet hair! Most of the time I just tie it back when I go out.

    There is no rule to say you can't blow dry. It's nice to have a change ever now and then.
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  • MirCurlsMirCurls Posts: 2,660Registered Users
    CurlyToast wrote: »
    I read this thread yesterday and was still thinking about it this morning, when I applied my (A)cone-laden leave-in. It illuminated that which I find oddest about this website -- which is fantastic, and from whence I have mined all types of super helpful info, mainly about technique and heretofore unknown product.

    But the thing is . . . if you're nostalgic for something, why don't you just, you know, *do* it? It seems to me that so many people come to NC.com frustrated and tired and desperate to just have someone tell them what to do. Provide a magic bullet, as it were. I've seen so many lamentations about cone or sulfate products that "really made my hair great, but are doomed for their CG unfriendliness", etc.

    If something works for your hair -- or there's a product or styling method that you feel like using -- I cannot for the life of me figure out why you wouldn't use it / do it just because some random curly-headed woman suggested, at some point, that your hair would be "better" if you didn't.

    I mean, if it works: awesome. If CG has given you total hair satisfaction then I am pleased for you. But whether it has or has not, if you wake up one morning feeling like rocking the straight hair, or a blowout then . . . for serious, why the hell not???

    Seems detrimental to hang onto a method just because it exists, even if it's not pleasing to you. And I'm not talking about occasional bad hair days -- because find me someone who makes those stop under any circumstance, and I'll show you my new bestie. I am speaking of the attitude that "I wish I could _____, but it's not CG!"

    There are no CG police. Get the damn blowdryer already. :toothy10:

    Absolutely. I'm not against having straightened hair if you want it. I simply decided nearly five months ago to give a good shot at this to see how healthy I could get my curls. :) I like my curls. I've had curls on and off since I first went natural at age 18 in '78. However, right now, with my hair thinner post-menopause/post-thyroid-meltdown and with grey hairs and with not using heat styling, I'm trying to figure out how I'll need to style my hair (ie, when I get it cut, what cut will be best to take advantage of the curls, will I want to blow-out bangs to give specific shape to hair around my face, etc).

    I decided to give this a good shot--at minimum a year. Then reassess.

    I wasn't 100% happy with straightening my hair--humidity frizz issues, fear of getting hair wet in shower or rain, damage from high heat causing increasing dryness and porosity.

    But when I give this my best shot, if I can't get to that place where, "Ah, okay, this shape works for me really well", then, yeah, I'll consider some other option, a modification in large form as needed. What's making it hard for me is my stylist of 22 years retired in March, so while I was with her, we could experiment with full trust as to how to shape my curls a bit more each session. She used the CG friendly products I bought and it was a cooperative thing where we were gently, slowly, getting to a nicer shape. But now, I'm disoriented because I have no stylist and the fear of getting a crap cut is HUGE. So, I sit there needing a trim and procrastinating. Sigh.

    I do like that now I don't care if my hair gets wet in the rain. :D That's novel. I do like embracing what my hair does on its own rather than when stretched and fried. But I would occasionally stretch and fry--if I got the urge. I'm not a purist.
    3a3b
    Natural since 11/25/09
    Then: fine, superdry, non-elastic, porous
    Now: medium, dry, elastic, lower porosity, BSL

    Curl Junkie Conditions!
    Eden BW Cleansing Condish Rocks!

    ~CJ Protein Tx
    ; BEE-U-Ti-Ful Deep Condish
    ~SMasters Method; Pixie-curling
    Dumped clumps for VOLUME!

    Marchioness Mir, Magister of Moisturization & Mystic of the Lofty Crown in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
  • jlpmom23jlpmom23 Posts: 755Registered Users
    I am kind of nostalgic for my pre-CG shopping habits, when I bought stuff because it smelled good or the bottles were cute. I have always been a pj but now I am not near as reckless as I used to be! Now I am so careful about ingredients, but I can't complain, the end result is so much better!
  • Gemini13Gemini13 Posts: 5,000Registered Users
    CurlyToast wrote: »
    If something works for your hair -- or there's a product or styling method that you feel like using -- I cannot for the life of me figure out why you wouldn't use it / do it just because some random curly-headed woman suggested, at some point, that your hair would be "better" if you didn't.

    :lol:
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    Hair: 3A/B, Underlayer of 2B
    HG products:
    Winter- Giovanni Tea Tree (co-wash) & 50/50 (condish); Curl Junkie Curl Assurance Leave-In; Curls Milkshake & Quenched Curls; Re:coil; BRHG
    Summer: DevaCurl No Poo & OneC; CK; Re:coil; BRHG; Honey!!!

    fotki pw= crrrls